You're Free to Toke Up. But Don't.

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    My Uncle Bill (R.I.P.) used the cannabis oil that you put on your gums to help him with the pain of his cancer. He said it worked well. I'm all for that. It should be available for people who want to use it.

    I'm against people who get a script and pay a fee to a shithead doctor for a non-existent injury so they can get medicinal weed. Just more insurance scamming.

    As for recreational use, you trade that "legal" high for Uncle Sugar and his minions making MILLIONS and MILLIONS of zogbux off your dumbass. Yet you drive down the road and it's STILL full of potholes, the roads and bridges and infrastructure are falling apart, you have shit public transit and they STILL want to raise your taxes. Ever wonder where all that loot, the taxes on your weed purchases actually go to?

    I didn't think so...... hey, spark one up! Turn on the big screen TV, the Three Stooges are on!


    Sleepers be sleepers, yo.
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    The fact that the government wants the sheeple to be stoned so they can use those taxes to fund all kinds of satanic nonsense and get away with it should be motivation enough to keep away from the stuff.
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    did u even bother watching the short video i poasted. This guy with parkinsons(an ex cop who is not a hippy or a pot advocate) is on like 20 different pills a day and none of them work as well as a few drops of cannabis oil.
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    The cannabis oil doesn't treat his Parkinson's, it very temporarily relieves his symptoms. Feelz are not solid, scientific grounds for legitimizing a public health crisis.
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    well yes his symptoms are greatly alleviated. Ur claiming its all in his mind, a placebo effect?
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    billy

    Compare the scripts for Cannabis to the trillions that go into the pharma industry for drugs that kill as compared to Cannabis that basically cannot kill.

    As to infrastructure. It will remain as is regardless of the intelligent use of Cannabis as compared to the war against children and young adults.

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    johnson

    "The fact that the government wants the sheeple to be stoned so they can use those taxes to fund all kinds of satanic nonsense and get away with it should be motivation enough to keep away from the stuff"

    The government has been loosing the drug war forever, and you somehow equate the government fighting against drug use as somehow them wanting people to use more drugs.

    Get off your meds my friend as they are not helping you think straight or make logical sense.

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    The Obama administration made a conscious decision not to fight the rebellions in Washington and Colorado. That is neither the Federal government fighting against drug use nor losing the drug war, (a war which they themselves define the parameters of); that is the Federal government explicitly abdicating the rule of law in order to promote those States' "rights" to collect tax revenue on substances which are still scheduled at the Federal level, and which the States themselves are implicitly promoting by legalizing and encouraging the sale of. The more sales, the more tax income. Get it? If you think these same governments that are legalizing dope have no interest in their residents getting high and giggling at YouTube videos as opposed to, say, being actively concerned with what the States are doing with public funds, you're delusional.
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    I'd rather have patients on medical pot vs addictive pharmaceuticals.
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    Psychological and emotional dependence on Marijuana (see: Fitz) is no better than physical addiction to pharmaceuticals. The government and mainstream media are blaming Big Pharma for the "opioid crisis" instead of our porous border policy, Cartels smuggling heroin through NAFTA zones, and our atheistic, materialistic, and morally relative society for creating the demand.

    It's a fine smoke-screen; everyone hates Pfizer, et. al. because they "make too much money." It's exactly the same situation with blaming Wall Street for the sub-prime mortgage crisis instead of the climate of liberal authoritarianism that forbade banks to decline loans to insolvent ghetto niggers in the first place.

    Yes, the Parkinson's fellow up there got some very temporary relief from his symptoms by getting high. The 5 minutes of control over his body that he got probably meant the world to him. The trouble is that advocating marijuana use as legitimate medical science is pure cynicism that amounts to little more than a tax scheme at best and a trojan horse to legalizing recreational use -- exactly the scam that played out in WA and CO.

    Legally (and I'm talking the law of the land), Marijuana has no medical value. Scientifically, marijuana has no medical value. It only has medical value to people on whom it has a negligible effect (such as the Parkinson's guy), degenerate stoners who want to be able to buy it at the corner shop, and satanic State governments that want to exploit the gaping holes in our public moral consciousness to bring in more tax revenue to misappropriate.
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    I will backtrack and agree that the marijuana plant contains compounds that may have scientific value, but smoking THC to get high to alleviate symptoms is not, and will never be, science or medicine.
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    I already agreed with you about not smoking it, maybe I wasn't clear?
    I agree with Medical pot in the form of edibles, pills, or oil. :)
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    Splitting hairs is not permitted. :frown:
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    Dey call it "dope" for a reason, dope.
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    There have definitely been some promising therapeutic benefits to some cannabinoid based medicines -- e.g., https://www.gwpharm.com/

    That being said: the health benefits of some of these cannabinoid derivatives is largely overshadowed by the now-seemingly-permanent enshrinment of brain-dead "stoner culture" into our cultural milieu, which we have no shortage of here in lovely Colorado. It seems like the hype has started to fade a little bit, but I'm not totally sure -- all I know is that I've had my fill of goofy, giggling undergraduates from the likes of K-State and the U of I coming here and being entertained by spending the afternoon sampling the likes of Lemontart Clusterfuck and Brazzberry Brainblaster. In other words: total idiocy, and it plays right into the sort of "Millennial Politics As Rage Against The Machine Liner Notes" sort of phenomenon that is generally synonymous with the collective lemming-march into the cultural extermination apparatuses. It doesn't seem like all of these miracle cures we were promised for food and fuel when we all thought we were on the side of the inevitable march of progress when we watched Hemp for Victory back in the early 90's as undergraduates has come to pass, and God knows it's not doing much for Denver potholes as far as I can tell.

    Hard drug use, too, seems to just go up and up and up lately -- I'm not sure if this is due to general cultural decline, the fact that Mexicans can't make money selling their shitty brick weed anymore so they've had to up the ante to more chiva and methamphetamine, or (my personal theory) if it's just shifted the "drug Overton window" a little to the left. If every sorority girl can now smoke a joint with no more naughtiness evinced than what a beer produced only a few years ago, then it's just that much less of a stretch to a line of crank. God, I hate to sound like some old moralizer, because hey -- I actually loved drugs back in the day (although not weed, which I quit smoking two decades ago and I think was best described by Hunter S. Thompson as something that produces a buzz akin to drinking a bunch of stale Heineken -- a description I don't necessarily agree with, but it's certainly as lackluster as that description so it's always stuck with me.) Tomislav Sunic put it perhaps the best in his essay Drugs and Democracy which he concluded by saying:

    If drug abuse among some reactionary and conservative thinkers has always been an isolated and Promethean death wish to escape time, the same joint in leftist hands does more than burn the fingers of the individual: it poisons the entire society.
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    Meanwhile, every major governmental study, LeDain, LaGuardia, the University of British Columbia report, the Indian hemp report and the California governments report, and the vast majority of addiction research reports disagree with what you put.

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