Vikings were Muslims

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  1. Bluto Drunken lout

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    Dis anti-when-square-heads-was-Good-White-Men shit- will not stand. Pipe down, PM, or suffer da consequences.

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    poete is a scholar and a gentleman and he shuld be respected as such.
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    Anyone you endorse is up for suspicion.
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    all great men r hated by most, thots in particular.
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    It's true. :)
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    I'm not a THOT and where are the great men?
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    thats charls carroll, also a scholar and a gentleman.

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    I see. So the Viking chroniclers lied about thmselves and Christian witnesses lied about what happened to them. Ok. Since you say so.
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    The accounts from the Crusades of Muslim practices of homosexual rape abound and were a common perception. See the letter of Emperor Alexios to Robert of Flanders or Guibert of Nogent's The Work of God Performed by the Franks. The fact that accounts like these persist to this day, whether you're talking about the KLA in the Balkans or ISIS in the Middle East or the Islamists in Afghanistan and Pakistan proves the point. Active sodomising of non-Muslims, in particular of prisoners and slaves, is allowed under Islamic law.
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    Muhammad forbid a man sodomizing his own wife. There is no such law allowing any form of sodomy in Islam. It is strictly haram.

    I'm not saying there weren't a few cases of men having their way with other men in history. All I said is that these stories of medieval Scandees or Saracens descending upon unsuspecting populations and mass anally raping the men while ignoring the women are myths. A few accounts doesn't prove that they were all doing these acts.

    Your mindset is derived from a modern western phenomenon that includes sexual suspicion of everyone.
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    Nope. Approaching Islamic culture liek a Protestant? Your claim based on a saying in a Hadith is just not borne out by the totality of Islamic tradition and history.

    See, e.g., the Shafi'i scholar Abd al-Wahhab al-Sha'rani or the Hanafi scholar Abd al-Rahman al-Kawakibi who state the opinion that sodomy with male slaves is permitted ont he same basis as sex with female slaves. In particular, there is a legalistic loophole regarding mukhannathun which allows for intercourse with any genetic male so long as he's part of that Islamic "third gender", and since you can in practice make a slave into whatever you wish ... just castrate your prisoner and put him in a dress ...

    And the Madinan Malikis school jurists taught that enemies should be sodomised to make them submit to Islam. An historical example of this beign done is Abu Nuwas, who sodomised Christians, Jewish and Zoroastrian boys calling it ‘the duty of every Muslim to sleep with them’.


    Nope. It's not a few cases. it was common practice. I'll take the historical witnesses over you opinions.



    Nope. Ingoring the women? Where was that claimed? Unsuspecting populations?



    Nope. The accounts are ubiquitous across time and space. I'll give a few more:

    The Passion of Pelagius: a Christian boy resists the advances of a king of Ala Andalus and is martyred

    Pseudo-Dionysius: "It was said that they eized beardless youths in the streets and defiled them. Scribes and ungodly money-changers, who were Christians, had young girls taken and led away and they defiled them, both daughters of the people and daughters of notables.

    Richard Burton's Terminal Essay: Muslims in the 19th century sodomised British Christian missionaries because they were too successful in their efforts.


    Nope. It's actually derived from historical and, in the case of Arabs and the like, contemporary witnesses to the fact.
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    We're not claiming universality but generality. Not everyone did this, but it was common practice.

    Some were worse than others. The Persians and Ottomans were the worst pederasts. Pederasty is practically a part of Sufi theology.

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