Discussion in 'Hot off the Wire' started by Ozzy Bon Halen, Mar 11, 2017.
Alright, the plot thickens! Gavin McAnus, that bastion of credible journalism and truth seeking, is going to go to Israhell to get the real scoop, baby! While reporting for (((Ezra Levant))) owned 'Rebel Media' he is going to give us goy the fair and unbiased straight dope LOL. Yeah, right.
He does this shit but always crawls back to the jews on his knees, and he always shits on some of the cooler people.. But maybe he went too far this time and has no choice but to stay put?
This is pretty much old news. Nobody tongues the kosher sphincter cleaner than ol' Gav. Good thing he's got all them tattoos and shit, or we might not have guessed that he's the 'rebel' in Rebel Media! Only it's more like Rebbe Media.
Trump in Israel
by Gavin McInnes
March 09, 2017
I’m in Israel right now doing a talk in Tel Aviv called “Trump in Israel” and I’m going on a fact-finding mission sponsored by my Jew boss Ezra Levant. Israelis don’t like Trump and I find it incredibly frustrating. I keep telling them, “The only child of Donald Trump not having sex with a Jew right now is the 10-year-old.” Trump’s daughter converted to Orthodox Judaism and he’s hired her yarmulke-wearing husband as a senior advisor. He’s discussed moving the embassy to Jerusalem as a show of solidarity. The wall is the best thing that ever happened to Israel and they roll their eyes when you talk about Trump doing the same. They don’t even like theirs. Col. Dan Tirza was the strategic planner behind the entire project (they call it the “Security Barrier”) and he was recently featured in Forbes as the expert Trump should be talking to. He brought me to a checkpoint where they’ve caught 20 pipe bombs this year. It wasn’t even a particularly busy checkpoint. There were hundreds of terror attacks in the years leading up to the wall that killed thousands of Israelis. A busful of children going to school was attacked by a suicide bomber and 19 were killed. Since the wall, terrorism has all but ceased to be. What’s there not to love?
“It’s only psychological,” Oded Revivi told me, “It doesn’t get to the root of the problem.” Revivi is the mayor of a settlement village called Efrat that has no wall and plenty of terror. He is optimistic about a symbiotic relationship with Palestine and I couldn’t disagree more. Revivi regularly goes to Palestinian leaders’ homes, and decided to take a risk and invite them to a party at his house. When the Palestinian authorities found out (through social media), Revivi’s guests were jailed. Time to give up, Oded. It’s funny because the people we’re meeting are almost exclusively pro-Israel, but I’m coming away from each meeting disappointed with Israel. They have the same disease the American Jews do. They are suicidally liberal. Christians are also guilty of this sin.
I love the wall and see it as a work of art. Even the cement part (which is only 5%) is a beautiful example of what man can create. It’s nine meters tall and has all kinds of tunnels and gates to incorporate the various religious ceremonies that Jews, Muslims, and Christians have. I even think the Palestinians like it. I believe they subliminally see it as tough love from a mean but fair patriarch. It shows strength and that’s the only thing the Muslims in this area revere. They’re like the Druze. They have survived because they always side with the winners. When the Arab world is thriving, they side with the Arabs. If the Jews are winning, they side with them. They live on both sides of the line, literally. These people are not impressed by fairness and morality. They see it as a weakness.
Street artist Banksy has a big art piece in Bethlehem right now called Walled Off Hotel to showcase how horrible it is for the Palestinians to be kept out of Jerusalem. Isn’t hating a wall proof that you want to be on someone else’s land? When Vicente Fox told Trump, “We’re not building your fucking wall” and ranted about how evil it was, he was admitting that the Mexican government sees illegal immigration as a handy way to get rid of criminals. He was conceding that committing an illegal act is crucial to their way of life. Palestinians want to cross over the wall because their town sucks and their town sucks because they ruined it. In the past ten years, Bethlehem has been completely taken over by Muslims. My tour guide couldn’t go there because it’s illegal for Israeli citizens to enter the neighborhood (I saw a red sign in English that said exactly that). There are a tiny handful of Christian families left who live near the Nativity church, but their doors are covered with posters pledging allegiance to various Muslim martyrs. If these Christians were to take down these posters, there’d be a knock on the door from Hamas and serious repercussions until they were put back up. This culture deserves to be walled off. While artists virtue-signal for the PLO, the rest of us should be taking back Bethlehem. Where are our fellow Christians in this mess? Where are they in Egypt and everywhere else Christians are being crucified? In America, Trump’s notion of giving Christian refugees preferential treatment gets eye-rolls from the media and is mocked with flippant remarks like “You’re not a refugee if you don’t think like me.” They’re mocking our bigotry, but it’s not such a bad idea.
I spoke to Palestinian pollster Dr. Khalil Shikaki, who told me that one of the few things Palestinians and Israelis agree on is that the situation in Israel will get worse for both parties during Trump’s administration. Haviv Gur, a senior analyst at The Times of Israel, asked me if I was embarrassed about Trump’s executive order. I told him I loved the travel ban and saw it as very necessary right now. Gur called Trump incompetent and laughed. I like Haviv a lot, but he has the same sickness the entire Judeo-Christian world has. It’s a snobby disdain for arrogance. The executive order was rushed, but it had to be. It’s essentially a military action. Jews should appreciate that. I don’t think one of the countries on Trump’s list would allow an Israeli passport into their country. They are at war, but they don’t seem to want to recognize that. They don’t even like guns. Getting a handgun permit is a nightmare and carrying it around comes with a huge litany of stipulations.
I did meet one Trump supporter in Jerusalem, senior contributing editor of The Jerusalem Post Caroline Glick. She’s a brassy broad who looks like Mel Brooks’ wife and is totally over pretending that a two-state solution could work. “That guy has balls,” she said of Trump, “I love his tweets.” She lives in the settlements and calls them neighborhoods. She recognizes that even when Clinton laid out a peace plan that was basically everything the Palestinians were asking for, they left the negotiation table. They don’t want to settle this. It’s a naive trait of the West to assume everyone wants to negotiate and come to a peaceful solution. We shouldn’t assume other cultures see democracy the way we do. Muslims are different from us and even living next to them is a pain in the ass. Ask India. Shit, ask Muslims. Israel’s only future is to stop apologizing and embrace the Trump mentality. It’s also the only future for the West.
98 and 44/100th's of all journalists are Christmas tree ornaments that need to be hung on lamp posts.
Gavin already wimps out like a bitch.
Gavin McInnes hasn't studied Soviet history, and accordingly should never use the phrase "[f]uck you" when addressing it. Gavin's homework is to read up on Lazar Kaganovich's role in dekulakization and to try again.
If Israelis have such a paranoid fear of Nazis, then why do they emulate them to such a remarkable degree?
An ethnostate obsessed with identity preservation and military supremacy. A time honored policy yielding the application of Lebensraum justified by historical victimization and fear of racial subjugation. Relatively archaic jure sanguinis, blood-based citizenship rules, de facto Apartheid, and Israelization of new land and property.
Either their living deeds prove Kevin MacDonald's (the failed intellectual goyishe kop) thesis that National Socialism was "white Judaism" (or vice versa) in the sense that NS doctrine posited an anti-Semitic, volk-conscious "group evolutionary strategy," or Jews have just done a very good job of becoming the thing that they supposedly loathe while sealing the deal with an incredible amount of self-deception.
Well, who'da thunk it? The SJWs have found their new victim - and it's philosemite Gavin M, and for the crime of anti-Semitism yet. Curiouser and curiouser, this generation of blouse-wearing poodle walkers....
Bad boy gone worse: Vice co-founder Gavin McInnes slides from right-wing provocateur to the neo-Nazi fringe
For those who admire the current iteration of Vice, a hip-but-professional news and culture website that invests in things like investigative journalism and a feminist vertical, it may come as something of a surprise to find out that one of the site’s founders, Gavin McInnes, has a post-Vice career (after leaving the company in 2008) as a right-wing provocateur.
McInnes’ media personality involves a stance of “political incorrectness,” and he mostly spends his time titillating his audience by using racial slurs and pushing a pseudo-edgy misogyny, a shtick that got him a spot as a Fox News contributor for several years as well as gigs hosting various video series and podcasts. But he has managed to keep one foot in more mainstream conservatism by avoiding the the overtly Nazi-style tropes of overt racism and anti-Semitism that have come to define the alt-right.
Until recently, that is. On March 11 a video was posted of McInnes coughing up a really elaborate apology for Holocaust denial and anti-Semitism. The social-media kerfuffle over this was enough to cause McInnes to do something he rarely does: backtrack, sort of.
Here’s some background: McInnes is part of The Rebel Media, a right-wing website run by Ezra Levant, who is more or less Canada’s answer to Glenn Beck. Recently, Levant and a handful of his hosts, including McInnes, went to Israel to generate a series of video reports using the ongoing conflicts in the Middle East to promote The Rebel’s Islamophobic views and its support for a more oppressive Israeli security state.
Avoiding all appearance of pandering to anti-Semitism would seem to be important in forging an alliance with the Israeli right. Apparently this expectation was more than McInnes could handle, because he put up a lengthy video rant on a non-Rebel feed where he minimized and made excuses for Holocaust denial and Nazism.
“I’m becoming anti-Semitic,” McInnes rambles in the video, which was excerpted by a YouTube user named Jason.
McInnes cites a tour guide who denounced Holocaust denialists during McInnes’ trip to the Holocaust History Museum at Yad Vashem in Jerusalem.
“And I felt like, I felt myself defending the super far-right Nazis, just because I was sick of so much brainwashing,” McInnes continues. “I felt like going, ‘Well, they never said it didn’t happen. They’re saying it was much less than 6 million and that they were starved to death and weren’t gassed.’”
After clarifying that he doesn’t agree with these views, McInnes continues by saying, “But there’s been a lot of genocides.” He goes on to describe Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin’s policies in the Ukraine, which led to widespread famine, this way: “That was by Jews. That was by Marxists, left-wing commies, socialist Jews.”
It gets worse, if that can be believed, with McInnes saying the Treaty of Versailles was “disproportionately influenced by Jewish intellectuals” and suggesting that was why Germans who supported the Nazi regime were so eager to blame the Jews for their post-World War I economic deprivations.
After this video began to circulate, overtly white supremacist circles online embraced McInnes as one of their own.
McInnes also swiftly followed up, on March 12, with a Rebel-branded video in which he says, “No offense, Nazis, I don’t want to hurt your feelings, but I don’t like you. I like Jews.” He also went on to deny saying that he blames the Ukrainian genocide or the rise of the Nazis on Jews, though, as the quotes above indicate, it sounds like that’s exactly what he was saying.
The bizarre is-he-or-isn’t-he behavior by McInnes is a predictable result of the rapidly shifting market pressures in right-wing media in the age of Trump, as Angelo Carusone, president of Media Matters saw it. People like McInnes have built their brand on provocation and “political incorrectness,” but they also “know there’s some hard lines in business still,” Carusone said. “And it’s really hard to scale, in the way [McInnes] knows is possible, if you have that baggage associated with you.”
It’s apparently one thing to denounce women’s suffrage, claim that domestic violence is a lie or imply that Neil deGrasse Tyson, who is black, can’t really be an astrophysicist, as McInnes has done. But sticking a toe into the deep waters of Holocaust denial is a bit too much for someone who wants to occupy the incendiary-but-still-mainstream-conservative space that McInnes has lodged himself into.
The problem for McInnes and similar right-wing firebrands, however, is that their brand of pseudo-edgy provocation is looking a bit quaint compared to the openly white supremacist, Pepe the Frog-loving alt-right crowd that has emerged online. McInnes has “been immersed in the alt-right milieu for a while, though he’s often been dismissed by the Nazi-er types as ‘alt lite,'” David Futrelle, who runs a site dedicated to tracking hate speech online, explained over email.
Keeping up that image of the reactionary as rebel is tougher to pull off in an era when people are openly throwing the “Sieg Heil” salute and the president himself has bragged that he grabs unwilling women “by the pussy.” Capturing that alt-right audience without running off slightly less authoritarian-friendly viewers or readers is a delicate art.
“This seems to be the model now of the alt-right-y thing as a whole, where they try to have their cake and eat it, too,” Carusone argued. “They get to say and do all this crazy shit.” But when “the white nationalist community embraces it,” then they “denounce that community or say they don’t want to be associated with it.”
The new video is cleverly constructed, if the goal is simultaneously to appeal to anti-Semites while creating enough plausible deniability to fend off the anger of anti-anti-Semites. McInnes starts off with innocuous comedy-style complaints about Israel and Israelis — he didn’t like the food and the waiters were rude — creating the impression that this is all just politically incorrect fun and not real bigotry.
But at a point after most ordinary and sensible people will click off the video, McInnes starts complaining that Israeli Jews have “whiny paranoid fears of Nazis,” which he believes is the reason they won’t support Trump. The tightrope act is also evident in the title of the video, which was originally called “10 Things I Hate About Jews.” McInnes’ tweet, which he briefly pinned, was even more aggressive in its rhetoric.
This entire episode points to a larger problem, Carusone argued, which is that people like McInnes, in pursuit of that “edgy” vibe, have made themselves into gateway drugs for white nationalism.
“Gavin’s been mostly isolated to the men’s rights base,” Carusone said, noting that McInnes has started the Proud Boys Network, which, in a show of deep unawareness, organizes “chapters and meetings to essentially provide safe space” for men who feel they can’t say sexist things in other spaces without getting pushback.
Lately, Carusone argued, “this men’s rights community is one of the biggest pipelines to white nationalism.” Neo-Nazis see these groups of “disaffected, predominantly white men” and find an opportunity to recruit.
This anti-feminist-to-white-nationalist road has been established by more underground figures than McInnes, mostly on “pickup artist” and “men’s rights” websites that have, in recent months, increased their amount of content devoted to telling white men that immigrants, black men and Jews are exploiting feminism in order to dismantle white American culture. At the same time, more overtly white supremacist sites have started to publish more anti-feminist content, trying to lure in that same audience.
More openly white supremacist and alt-right folks have their own interpretation of McInnes’s behavior. Andrew Anglin of the Daily Stormer, an unapologetically neo-Nazi website, offers his take on McInnes “cucking like a sonovabitch”:
Maintaining this stance of being a provocative, politically incorrect right-winger while still shunning associations with outright Nazis used to be easy. But this is 2017, and things have clearly changed.
Is Ezra Levant's Rebel Media Letting In The Wrong Kind Of Rebels?
"I'm becoming anti-Semitic." That's what he said.
To put a fine point on it, that's what Rebel Media's Gavin McInnes said on a video, found here.
Gavin McInnes attends 'Creative Control' New York Premiere at Sunshine Landmark on March 3, 2016 in New York City. (Photo by Slaven Vlasic/Getty Images)
Here's some other things he said:
"God, [Jews are] so obsessed with the Holocaust. [...] I don't know if it's healthy to dwell."
"I felt myself defending the super-far-right Nazis, just because I was sick of so much [Holocaust] brainwashing."
"...much less than six million [were murdered in the Holocaust] and they starved to death and they weren't gassed."
"[A man-made famine that killed millions in Soviet Ukraine was caused] by Jews. That was by Marxist, Stalinist, left-wing, commie, socialist Jews."
"[WWII caused the Treaty of Versailles, which was caused] disproportionately influenced by Jewish intellectuals."
And, as noted, "I'm becoming anti-Semitic."
I don't think there can be any doubt those statements are deeply anti-Semitic, but in case you have any doubt, they were enthusiastically promoted -- and celebrated -- by former Ku Klux Klan leader David Duke, and America's current neo-Nazi leader, Richard Spencer:
✔@RichardBSpencerGavin's a straight shooter, fam. https://twitter.com/thefinn12345/status/840680026676764672 …
5:19 PM - 11 Mar 2017
Around the same time McInnes made his statements, another Rebel Media person, Lauren Southern, abruptly left the organization. Southern also counts Spencer and assorted neo-Nazis and white supremacists among her fan base. There is a lot of speculation online that she is more aligned with the National Policy Institute's Richard Spencer than with Rebel Media's Ezra Levant.
Personally, I don't know if that's true: I haven't spent five seconds watching any of her many videos.
Now, am I fan of the Rebel website? Full disclosure: not really. That's particularly the case after Rebel's Faith Goldy defended a far-Right ********* in a bizarre effort to slime me for, um, being critical of pedophiles.
Anyway. Rebel's founder, Ezra Levant, and I have a long, long history. We've slammed each other, we've sued each other, we've gone after each other. When Sun News Network started up, Kory Teneycke asked us to enter into an armistice, and so we did. It's held ever since, and I've been content to let other people fight with Ezra. Been there, done that.
Is Rebel Media so free-speechy that it will now give an uncritical platform to Holocaust denier rhetoric?
And I will give Ezra credit for this much: one, he built the Rebel thing from the ground up, and he has turned it into a significant player in the Canadian media universe. It's not a news service, not by a long shot -- it's simply a web platform for Right-wing and far-Right-wing opinion -- but it's not inconsequential.
Two, Ezra is not an anti-Semite. Not just because he's Jewish -- Ezra has been more critical of other Canadian Jews than Jim Keegstra, Ernst Zundel and Paul Fromm put together. He's not anti-Semitic because, basically, he's not anti-Semitic.
So what, then, is he doing keeping the likes of Gavin McInnes on the payroll? What is the truth about alt-Right heroine Lauren Southern and her speedy departure? Is Rebel Media so free-speechy that it will now give an uncritical platform to Holocaust denier rhetoric?
Some say all this means the end of Rebel Media. Personally, I doubt it. They seriously underestimate Ezra Levant.
But is it all deeply unsettling, and pretty off-brand, too. When Ezra Levant is prepared to play host to the likes of Gavin McInnes, spouting anti-Semitic filth, well...it's not good.
The worst kept secret in the world (from himself) is that he's 99.9% certainty a cock-teasing homo closet-Nazi and he's the last one to realise it. A few moar Kike criticisms an' antagonisations o' his pwecious feelings should complete da metamorphosis, just a question o' time now. Once u criticise holy Kikery ur done and u may as well accept urself.
1. "Free-speechy". He says it twice.
2. "Ezra is not an anti-Semite. Not just because he's Jewish. He's not anti-Semitic because, basically, he's not anti-Semitic." Guess ol' Ezra passed the same Worth A Fingernail test that McInnes, Lauren Southern and any goy who voted for Trump resoundingly failed. Lucky ol' Ezra.