The Link Between Detached Dads and Risk-Taking Girls

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    The Link Between Detached Dads and Risk-Taking Girls

    New research on daughters and risk-taking sexual behavior

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    How much do fathers matter to the personal development of their daughters? Scientists studying families have long suspected that domestic instability and insufficient fathering predispose girls to risky sexual behavior, but there was no hard evidence for this view.

    A study published in the journal Developmental Psychology in May used an ingenious research design to get some answers. Danielle DelPriore and Bruce Ellis of the University of Utah, working with Gabriel Schlomer of the State University of New York at Albany, teased apart the effects of fathers within families.

    They studied 101 pairs of adult sisters from families that had either remained intact or had broken up by the time the younger sister turned 14. In each family the sisters were distant enough from each other in age—at least four years—that they would have had different experiences of their father, especially if he had separated from the family before the younger one reached maturity.

    This research design made it possible to control for variables that might interfere with clear conclusions about the effects of fathering. Both sisters randomly received half their genes from the mother, half from the father, so inherited genes couldn’t explain systematic differences. Sibling order could matter: As teens, younger sisters could for some reason be more risk-prone. But that was the point of including intact families. If the sisters differed in sexual risk-taking only in the disrupted families, it would be possible to zero in on how the difference arose.

    The researchers used retrospective questionnaires to probe parenting and sexual experiences that the women—who were between 18 and 36 at the time of the study—recalled from high school. Sexual risk-taking included promiscuity, unprotected sex and sex while intoxicated.

    Older and younger sisters reported similar levels of mothering quality, whether their families were intact or disrupted.

    But the most striking finding was in older sisters with a large age gap in the disrupted families. The father’s behavior, for better or worse, usually affected the older sister much more than her younger sibling.

    If these older sisters communicated well with their fathers and felt close to them, they experienced much more parental monitoring and hung out far less with sexually risk-prone peers. But this kind of fathering had much less effect on the younger sisters, many of whom didn’t have enough contact with their father for him to make much of a difference.

    These factors explained the older sisters’ behavior. “The prolonged presence of a warm and engaged father can buffer girls against early, high-risk sex,” Dr. DelPriore said. This doesn’t mean that divorced fathers can’t provide quality care. “A silver lining,” she adds, “is that what dad does seems to matter more than parental separation.” In other words, a divorce may be less harmful for a girl than more years with a bad dad.

    The growing field of evolutionary child psychology adds interesting context to these findings.

    Biologists find that organisms in unstable environments grow up faster and start reproducing earlier than those in stable ones. Theoretically, in a stable environment you can take more time growing into your reproductive activities, focusing on long-term quality rather than on getting an early start. Conversely, in an unstable situation, it might “pay” (in Darwinian terms) to begin reproducing earlier, since in those girls’ worlds, a good man is hard to find.

    This doesn’t rule out more familiar psychological explanations, but in a child’s development, family instability—which, again, is something different from divorce—might provide a catalyst setting off a psychological change and risky behavior.

    As Dr. DelPriore phrased the question, “What is it that dad does that shields a daughter from sexual risk?” Dr. Ellis phrased the answer: “It’s all about dosage of exposure to dads; the bigger the dose, the more fathering matters—for better and for worse.”
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    You were arguing with fuzzy about this the other day.
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    excellent point johnson, jihada was incorrect once again and i was rite.
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    The article is about females, are you female?
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    u were essentially arguing that children who grow up in an unstable environment are on equal footing with children from stable homes in terms of ability to become well-adjusted mentally healthy people. This new study is about daughters and their relationships to their fathers specifically but it still proves ur asinine assertion wrong. Children are deeply effected by their childhood environments and the quality of the relationship between their parents. Children in unhealthy environments become traumatized to some degree, some irreparably so.

    this should be common sense and easily observable but many don't like to admit this. I think there's multiple reasons for this.

    - they can't admit to being damaged or traumatized(half of the western world today) because these labels(like mental illness) are very stigmatizing.
    - most people are incapable of providing an honest assessment of themselves.
    - it reflects badly on society and most don't like to think of the society they live in as broken or dysfunctional or something that creates broken and dysfunctional people.
    - many like to think of themselves as being inherently good or better than the other who turned out bad in a similar circumstance. In reality they just react to trauma differently than the other who went on to become a criminal or insane or dying from drug/alcohol abuse.
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    Fitz. :facepalm:

    I dedicate this song to you. ;)






    I know a girl
    She puts the color inside of my world
    But, she's just like a maze
    Where all of the walls all continually change
    And I've done all I can
    To stand on her steps with my heart in my hand
    Now I'm starting to see
    Maybe It's got nothing to do with me
    Fathers, be good to your daughters
    Daughters will love like you do
    Girls become lovers who turn into mothers
    So mothers be good to your daughters too
    Oh, you see that skin?
    It's the same she's been standing in
    Since the day she saw him walking away
    Now she's left cleaning up the mess he made
    So fathers, be good to your daughters
    Daughters will love like you do
    Girls become lovers who turn into mothers
    So mothers be good to your daughters too
    Boys, you can break
    You'll find out how much they can take
    Boys will be strong
    And boys soldier on
    But boys would be gone without warmth from
    A woman's good, good heart
    On behalf of every man
    Looking out for every girl
    You are the God and weight of her world
    So fathers, be good to your daughters
    Daughters will love like you do
    Girls become lovers who turn into mothers
    So mothers be good to your daughters too
    So mothers be good to your daughters too
    So mothers be good to your daughters too


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    ok fine u were rite. Stable marriages and healthy relationships with parents have no bearing on how a child mentally, emotionally, and spiritually develops. Single mom and whore society will certainly continue to produce very well-adjusted healthy individuals.
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    Relax, Fitz, I do agree with you to an extent.
    But, there's a point in a person's life they have to take responsibility for their own lives
    A person can't blame everything on their parents/step parents/relatives/foster parents/childhood or other life traumas on their current life choices/status.
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    Jews always present the goyim with two "choices", both of which are jewish.
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    You know, I'm just not buying this "not enough attention from daddy" as a valid theory for why girls are whores. We've all met depraved sluts who had relatively normal, loving families. At best, not having a father around to be ashamed of their behavior -and hopefully beat her ass for it- might make them a bit less self conscious over all the cocks they're sucking.

    Some bitches are just born to be whores. Hell, most of them. And don't even try and tell me that a man should want to spend time with a spoiled teenage cum dumpster constantly insulting him and defying him at every given opportunity.

    But I have a plan worked out to solve the potential unbearable suffering I have in store for me a few years down the road. See, if she wants to be allowed to ever talk to a guy without winding up in an Eastern European convent, she's gonna have to make friends with some senior girls to bring home. And if she wants me to pretend I don't smell that bag of grass, she's gonna have to pretend she doesn't notice if I occasionally crash the party and disappear with one of her friends for a couple hours. Hopefully my daughter will be so revolted by my lifestyle that she chooses to be more selective in her own personal life, because that's my sole motivation for this plan. Obviously I'm also gonna whup her ass in public for ever defying me. And if all this doesn't work, I'll know that she was already ruined at birth and none of it was my fault.
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    They Call Americans Monsters
    by Gavin McInnes

    This week gossip blogs like CNN focused on a black stripper who was being harassed by her ex-fiancé, Kim Kardashian’s brother. It was obviously a pathetic display of myopic minutiae, but it was also a telling look at our cultural priorities. Blac Chyna is the stripper in question, and she dumped Rob Kardashian when her baby was one month old. She dumped her previous baby-daddy when the kid was 1. That’s two babies without a daddy and no marriage in sight, but ABC News was focused on the “revenge porn” Rob dared to put on social media. Three-quarters of black kids are born out of wedlock and when the mom is white and the dad is black it goes up to 92 percent. But hey, who cares about the kids or the institutions we used to hold dear? Let’s focus on this stupid slut’s privacy (link NSFW).

    You see this same willful blindness in the PBS documentary They Call Us Monsters. Directed by Ben Lear (son of the guy who created Archie Bunker), the film tracks three teenagers accused of attempted murder and discusses the ethics of trying “youths” as adults. They completely ignore the Hispanic influence involved in all three cases and treat the boys like some random victims of their random environments. When I saw the movie, I couldn’t not see a world where marriage is trivialized and poor Hispanics prove again and again they are incompatible with American culture.

    The first boy, Juan Gamez, came from El Salvador when he was a child. Back home his father expressed disdain for Juan because he thought the brother was a tougher kid. That kind of neglect may work in El Salvador. It’s not in a state of war; it is a war. Importing people from this country would be like plucking Crazy Horse from the Battle of the Rosebud and plonking him into the middle of Tokyo with a broom in his hand. Juan was determined to prove his worth to his father and this is typically done by showing you are a more ruthless warrior. Unfortunately, when it came time to prove his manhood, someone changed the scenery and they were now living in California.

    The father was back home and there was no battleground for Juan to prove himself on, but he couldn’t adapt so he followed the plan and joined a gang. He did well in “the game” and proved himself to be way more cold-blooded than his brother, but it didn’t matter. California isn’t looking for brutal killers, so when he shot a rival gang member in the head at point-blank range, he was arrested for murder. Juan’s story begins while he is awaiting sentencing and ends with him getting fifteen years, after which he will be sent back to El Salvador. I’m assuming this means he’s illegal, but the film doesn’t tell us because that’s not how the Lears operate.

    Antonio Hernandez is the second kid we learn about in the film. He’s a likable Mexican drug addict who comes from a single mom who is little more than a professional baby machine. When Hernandez talks to the filmmakers at home, there are toddlers strewn all over the floor like some kind of tiny Jim Jones massacre. Some have pillows. Some have pants. One managed to get a diaper, but none of them have a bed to sleep on. It’s clear the mother just has food lying around and they crash when they’re tired. You know, like rats. Antonio never had a father and stabbed a rival gang member shortly after joining a gang because that’s what you’re supposed to do. They say drugs are the root of all crime in America, but I believe the idle hands that lead to drugs are just as bad, and idle hands come from no dad.

    Being on trial and away from drugs gets Antonio clean and he sets his sights on military school. It’s not clear why, but the courts drop the charges if he pursues a career in the Army. It’s way too lenient for trying to kill someone, but what happens next is much more important and the film just glosses over it. Antonio finds himself incompatible with the other students in the school because they’re “squares” and he really hates having to wear a tie. He says he has nothing in common with them at all. Soon after, his mother and her Jim Jones brood move into his room and he hits the streets. By the end of the film, he is back on trial for drug-related charges. We never hear about the boy’s father or his mother’s inability to close her legs. We never hear about a culture where there is zero stigma in any of this. Normal Lear’s son is focused on “the system” and how it does nothing to help, even though we see the exact opposite right before our eyes.

    Finally, we have Jarad Nava. He is white and is facing attempted-murder charges for saying, “You’re going to die today, bitch,” and firing into a rival gang member’s car. The girl he hit is paralyzed for life. Jarad is unlike the other two boys in that his childhood was perfectly normal. He didn’t grow up running from the pandillas in the murder capital of the world like Juan. He wasn’t constantly stepping over exhausted babies in the living room like Antonio. He was an only child of two American citizens. Things started to go awry for Jarad when his parents got divorced. The father was soon replaced by a Hispanic man who impregnated his white wife and made two daughters. Jarad had to adjust to his new family, but the stepfather also had adjustments to make. I got the feeling that the Hispanic stepfather felt as incongruous in his new situation as Antonio felt in military school.

    Eventually, the stepfather gets so depressed he tries to stab himself to death in the backyard and is only alive because young Jarad ran out to stop him. This left the boy deeply damaged and he immediately becomes so Hispanic he makes MS-13 look like Orson Welles. He moves his hands like a cholo and speaks with their slang. It’s possible he recognized his new dad felt like a fish out of agua and overcompensated by becoming a human Mexico. Don’t kill yourself, Dad. You’re not the only Hispanic guy in the family. Jarad doesn’t do as well as the two Hispanic kids when it comes to sentencing at the end of the film. He gets life and will only be eligible for parole when he’s 47. No free plane ride to Central America for the American citizen. No free military school for the white kid who saved his stepdad’s life. Just prison.

    The end of the film is like the end of the Kardashian saga. The takeaway is that marriage is irrelevant, minorities are victims, and the system needs to do more to protect them. I don’t get that from either story. Blac Chyna is making babies without dads and that’s child abuse. Mass immigration from third-world countries combined with limitless welfare is another form of child abuse. It turned fatherless Antonio into a way to get a paycheck and nothing more. It took away Juan’s father and brought the boy from a battleground where you need to kill to survive to a country where killers can’t survive. Jarad’s situation started out great, but it too devolved into child abuse. Divorce culture took away his father and mass immigration may well have brought him a father who can’t cope. Instead of belonging to a strong community that could have helped rebuild the boy, he fell into the gang warfare our open borders have created.

    Norman Lear created Archie Bunker as a way to lampoon the working class, but it backfired and we all learned to love ol’ Arch. His son made a documentary to criticize the system, but in true Lear fashion, it backfired too and he accidentally showed America the importance of marriage, the trouble with welfare, and the dangers of mass immigration.
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    Divorced, single, or single by choice mothers need to be stronger healthier role models for their children.
    It's sexist, but rarely do men want or get custody of the children.

    Somehow I ended up watching this movie "The Dairy of Teenage Girl" and it would prove Fitz's theory of absent dads. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3172532/

    As far as boys with absent fathers, I have seen positive and negative outcomes.
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    That sure sounds like a clear-cut case of you a race-iss, Jermaine!

    However it cannot be stressed often, or loudly, enough: white men, you're better off with an Asian or Hispanic girl - or your own spit-moistened palm - than going in, sloppy seconds, on a "white" girl who's already excreted out a mooncalf. "White" girls who squeeze out mulatto bastards must be shunned until death.....let NO white hand be raised to defend or support them!

    Don't be the grinning-dumbass human safety net for these desperate mudsharks; not only will you gain nothing (as you'll learn soon enough, to your eternal dismay).....you are helping to bury your own for the sake of SPT (Some Pussy Tonight), one of the vilest civilizational crimes you can possibly commit (after the mudsharks' own, of course).
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    Well, it sounds like it would certainly prove my theory of big tits!
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    is ur head broken? single mothers can never be good role models. If they are a single mother they have failed at being a mother.

    single mothers are probably the most destructive force a civilization can face. They cannot be spinned into anything remotely positive. They are literal destroyers of civilization. More dangerous than any 'terrorist'. Single mothers go on to destroy the lives of millions and perpetuate a neverending cycle of dysfunction the west will never recover from. How many lives are destroyed by 'terrorists', maybe a few hundred every decade? Rlly if the west wanted to win the war on 'terror' all they'd have to do is release armies of single mothers into their nations, not armed men.

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    Fitz, a MARRIED friend of mine was 8 months pregnant with her 2nd child when her husband was killed in a motorcycle accident.
    Sorry, but each case is different.

    BTW: she's an awesome mom and she has not remarried.

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    Thank you, kind sir!
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