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    Which made global news when they went missing and yet here again! A few neighborhoods will get bombed for this.

    This undated image released by the Israel Defense Forces shows a combination of three photos of Israeli teens Eyal Yifrah, 19, Gilad Shaar, 16, and Naftali Fraenkel, a 16-year-old with dual Israeli-American citizenship, who disappeared while hitchhiking home near the West Bank city of Hebron late at night on June 12, 2014 and were never heard from again. The Israeli military found the bodies of the three missing teenagers on Monday, June 30, 2014, just over two weeks after they were abducted in the West Bank, allegedly by Hamas militants. The grisly discovery culminated a feverish search that led to Israel's largest ground operation in the Palestinian territory in nearly a decade and raised fears of renewed fighting with Hamas.

    JERUSALEM (AP) — The Israeli military found the bodies of three missing teenagers on Monday just over two weeks after they were abducted in the West Bank — a grim discovery that ended a frantic search that led to Israel's largest ground operation in the Palestinian territory in nearly a decade and drew Israeli threats of retaliation. "Hamas is responsible and Hamas will pay," Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu vowed, referring to the Islamic militant group that Israel has accused of carrying out the kidnappings. The teenagers "were kidnapped and murdered in cold blood by human animals," the Israeli leader said as he convened an emergency meeting of his Security Cabinet. The three-hour session ended after midnight without any decisions, and officials were expected to resume deliberations on Tuesday. Early Tuesday, Israel carried out an especially intense series of airstrikes in Gaza, saying it had struck 34 targets across the Hamas-controlled territory. The military said the airstrikes were a response to a barrage of 18 rockets fired into Israel since late Sunday. "The IDF will continue to act in order to restore the peaceful living to the civilians of the state of Israel. The Hamas terror organization and its extensions are solely responsible for any terror activities emanating from the Gaza Strip," said Lt. Col. Peter Lerner, a military spokesman. There were no further details on the targets, but in recent weeks Israel has repeatedly targeted launch sites and weapons storage areas in similar attacks. There were no immediate reports of casualties. The kidnapping episode has put Netanyahu in a difficult position. With a public enraged over the deaths, the Israeli leader has widespread support to strike Hamas. But after a two-week crackdown against the group, he could have a tough time finding new targets. He is also facing international calls for restraint.

    Eyal Yifrah, 19, Gilad Shaar, 16, and Naftali Fraenkel, a 16-year-old with dual Israeli-American citizenship, disappeared June 12 while hitchhiking home from the Jewish seminaries where they were studying near the West Bank city of Hebron. Despite the dangers, hitchhiking is common among Israelis traveling in and out of Jewish settlements in the West Bank. In an operation codenamed "Brother's Keeper," Israel dispatched thousands of troops across the West Bank in search of the youths, closed roads in the Hebron area and arrested some 400 Hamas operatives throughout the territory. The search ended Monday afternoon with the discovery of the bodies under a pile of rocks in a field north of Hebron. Israel has identified two well-known Hamas operatives from Hebron as the primary suspects. The men, Marwan Qawasmeh and Amer Abu Aisheh, remain on the run, and military officials said the search for them would continue. The search for the teens became a national obsession. Israeli media delivered round-the-clock updates, top officials held daily televised briefings and Israelis held prayer vigils. The mothers of the three teens became public figures as they campaigned for their sons' return, at one point traveling to Geneva to address the U.N. Human Rights Council in Geneva. News of their deaths prompted an outpouring of grief late Monday. Large crowds of supporters rushed to the homes of the families in the central Israeli towns of Nof Ayalon and Elad, and the West Bank settlement of Talmon, while supporters lit memorial candles and prayed. Large crowds gathered in Tel Aviv's central Rabin Square, and at the West Bank junction where the youths were abducted, singing songs, praying and lighting candles shaped in the names of the youths or the Jewish Star of David. "All of Israel bows its head today," said President Shimon Peres. Thousands of Israelis have died in wars and militant attacks over the years, and Israel has grappled with the kidnappings of soldiers by militant groups in the past. But the ages of the victims, and the fact that they were unarmed civilians, seemed to strike a raw nerve. Security officials have long feared that civilian hitchhikers in the West Bank could make easy targets. Beyond identifying the suspected kidnappers, Israel has not publicly provided evidence proving the involvement of Hamas, which has praised the kidnappings but not claimed responsibility for them. It is also not clear whether the kidnappers received orders from higher-ups or acted on their own.

    Still, Hamas frequently encourages its members to try to kidnap Israelis, believing hostages could be used to win the release of militants detained in Israeli prisons. Tensions had also been high since the shooting deaths in May of two Palestinian teens during a stone-throwing clash with Israeli security forces. News of the Israeli teens' deaths generated condemnations from around the world. Pope Francis, who in May visited the region, shared in the families' "unspeakable pain," said the Vatican spokesman, the Rev. Federico Lombardi. In Washington, President Barack Obama sent his "deepest and heartfelt condolences" to the families. "As a father, I cannot imagine the indescribable pain that the parents of these teenage boys are experiencing," he said. Yet he urged "all parties" to refrain from steps that could further destabilize the situation. U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon issued a similar condemnation of the "heinous crime," but also urged the sides to "refrain from any actions that could further escalate this highly tense situation." Israel's options may be limited. After a two-week crackdown on Hamas in the West Bank, few major targets remain there. Hamas had already been weakened by seven years of pressure by Israel and the forces of Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, and Israeli troops seemed to find very little during the latest crackdown. Israel could turn its attention toward the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip. Israel has been battling a surge in rocket fire from Gaza and could step up the intensity of its reprisals. It also might consider stronger political action. Netanyahu has urged Abbas to disband a unity government he recently formed with Hamas' backing. The Israeli leader will almost certainly step up the pressure on Abbas. Israeli media have also said that Israel might consider deporting Hamas leaders in the West Bank to Gaza. In Gaza, Hamas spokesman Sami Abu Zuhri warned Israel against any broad offensive. Gaza militants possess thousands of rockets, and would almost certainly unleash heavy barrages at Israel if Israel attacks. "Netanyahu should know that threats don't scare Hamas, and if he wages a war on Gaza, the gates of hell will open on him," he said. Abbas has condemned the kidnappings, and his forces coordinated closely with Israel during the search for the teens. But he has so far refused Israeli calls to terminate the unity government, which ended a seven-year rift with Hamas. He says his new Cabinet remains committed to his political program. The Palestinian president scheduled a meeting of the Palestinian leadership on Tuesday to discuss the events, his spokesman Nabil Abu Rdeneh said. Abdallah Abdallah, an adviser to Abbas, said the Palestinians regretted the loss of life. "We want peace to be created in this part of the world so no mother or no family will be bereaved for the loss of their beloved ones, Palestinian or Israeli," he said.

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    Wouldn't surprise me if the hunting & searchin for them is what got 'em killed. The ragheads may have decided diss merchandise is bcome too hot to hang on to and disposed o' it.
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    Jews a bit alarmed that Hamas has this capability.

    but Its Potential as a Weapon Is Frightening[for Jews]

    An aerial drone launched by Hamas was knocked out of Israeli airspace Monday by an Israel Defense Forces Patriot missile battery, marking the first reported use by Hamas of an unmanned aerial vehicle as a weapon and a frightening development for Israel. “It was shot to smithereens,” IDF spokesman Lt. Col. Peter Lerner told the New York Times.

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    Hamas’ Al Aqsa TV showed footage of this drone, though it’s unclear if it’s the same drone that was intercepted by Israel. (Screenshot: Al Aqsa TV via NBC News)

    Hamas’ military wing the Al Qassam Brigades claimed responsibility for sending a “number of drones” into Israel and described the innovation as one of the “surprises” it has been preparing for Israel, the New York Times reported. An ABC News correspondent reported that the drone was small and unarmed.

    According to this zogbot:
    The drone was intercepted over the coastline of Ashdod, a city that is home to southern Israel’s main Mediterranean port. Hamas’ Al Aqsa TV aired footage it claimed was of the drone as it flew to Israel. TheBlaze is unable to independently authenticate the video or determine if it was the same drone that was shot down on Monday.

    According to the Times of Israel, air raid sirens went off in the city before the Patriot anti-aircraft battery launched a missile which struck the drone. The Israeli Navy searched the coastline to find the drone’s wreckage. Hamas said that it had launched drones for “special missions” over Israel, including surveying IDF bases, the Washington Post reported. “The Hamas group claimed its engineers had manufactured three types of unmanned aircraft, including those that could be armed or used as a guided missile, a kind of suicide drone. The claims of armed drones or overflights of Israeli military installations could not be confirmed,” the Post reported. Hamas said it planned to send more drones, a threat an Israeli military spokesman did not rule out. IDF spokesman Colonel Lerner told the New York Times that the drone was first identified by military scanners as it took off from Gaza and that it was shot down in a place where it was least likely to harm civilians. Israeli Defense Minister Moshe Yaalon said that the launching of the drone was “an example of the attempts to continue to harm us by any means, and of the preparedness of the Israel Defense Forces.” “Hamas is trying to chalk up an achievement at any price,” Yaalon said in a statement. The New York Times noted that Israel destroyed a drone-manufacturing plant in Gaza in 2012. While Hamas is not believed to have previously launched a drone to attack Israel, the Lebanese Shiite terrorist group Hezbollah has at least twice.
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    We have consolidated threads for everything else why not this eh?

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    Their missle protection dome can only stop 90% of rockets, with such a high rate of failure maybe Hamas and other groups can employ other IED tactics instead?

    First fatality in Israel as Hamas unleashes barrage of rockets across Gaza border

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    First Israeli citizen has been killed by a rocket from Gaza since the IDF began its Operation Protective Edge on July 7. A civilian in his 30s was critically injured at the Erez crossing on the Gaza border and died later of wounds. The first Israeli victim of the week-long conflict was a volunteer delivering supplies to Israeli soldiers deployed at the border with the Gaze Strip, police spokesman Micky Rosenfeld said as cited by AP.

    Hamas group has claimed responsibility for launching the short-range rocket that struck the area along the border with Gaza, reports Reuters. Earlier, the Israeli Defense Force (IDF) reported that a rocket fired from Gaza struck a house in Ashkelon, is a coastal city on the Mediterranean coast. No casualties were immediately reported there.

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    On Monday, a rocket attack launched by Palestinian militants wounded two Israeli girls in Lakiya, a town in the south of the country. Maram Wakili, 10, was in critical condition in Soroka Medical Center, Be'er Sheva, according to Haaretz. Her 13-year-old sister Atir was moderately wounded. “We heard a very faint siren,” the girls’ cousin, Omar Wakili, was quoted as saying. “The girls started running but there was no time to hide, the rocket hit our cowshed and shrapnel scattered everywhere.”

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    An Israeli bomb disposal expert inspects the remains of a rocket fired by Palestinian militants from the Gaza Strip that hit a yard outside a house in the southern port city of Ashdod on July 15, 2014 (AFP Photo / David Buimovich)

    On Tuesday, Israel resumed its offensive against Gaza. That followed a six-hour truce proposed by Egypt, which was accepted by Israel and rejected by Hamas. The Israeli military said that during the supposed ceasefire 47 rockets were fired by Palestinians all over Israel with more cross-border fire following after Israel responded back.

    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Israel will intensify its offensive after Hamas continued firing rockets instead of accepting the ceasefire. “It would have been preferable to have solved this diplomatically, and this is what we tried to do when we accepted the Egyptian proposal for a ceasefire, but Hamas leaves us no choice but to expand and intensify the campaign against it,” Netanyahu said Tuesday in broadcast remarks.

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    According to Israeli military, over 1080 rockets have been launched at Israel since the outbreak of violence between the two old foes last weeks. 845 of those rockets hit the country’s territory, while almost 200 were intercepted. While Israel has suffered its first victim, the number of fatalities among Palestinians is climbing to 200. Over 77 % of them are civilians, including 36 children, according to UN report.

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    Jews :frown: Muslims :frown:

    Obsequious, servile worship of the Other :disagree:
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    Another jew misadventure underway, as hebes invade Gaza-

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    Israeli soldier reportedly captured, more than 100 Palestinians dead in worst day of conflict

    GAZA CITY — Day 13 was the bloodiest so far. More than one hundred Palestinians were killed in heavy bombardment and street battles in Gaza on Sunday and 13 Israeli soldiers were slain in the most intense day of fighting in Israel’s current offensive against Hamas, officials said. Israel said it pummeled a neighborhood in east Gaza because the warren of shops and concrete-block homes was the site of frequent rocket launches and concealed a network of tunnels dug by Hamas fighters and allied militant factions. When their troops went in, Israeli military officers say, they were surprised by the tenacity, training and weaponry of their opponents. They said Israeli soldiers were repeatedly hit by Gaza militants firing from windows, employing land mines and setting booby traps. “It was a very hard battle there,” a senior Israeli military official said. “I have to admit that we were facing good fighters from the other side.” The seven-hour attack by Israeli artillery and tank shells, followed by small-arms gun battles in the streets, left the district in ruins. There were bodies in the streets and gray-faced Palestinians being dug out of the rubble and stacked into ambulances. Thousands of residents had fled in the middle of the night, many barefoot.
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    Let's pretend Israel gives a shit what Obama says.... now let's go back to the reality!
    U.S. Calls for Immediate Truce in Gaza as Death Toll Mounts

    Palestinian Deaths Reach 571

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    An Israeli artillery unit fires toward the Gaza Strip Monday. Israeli officials indicated they would press to destroy Hamas tunnels. Reuters

    The U.S. turned to pushing for an immediate cease-fire in Gaza with the death toll nearing 600, as Israeli officials indicated they would keep up efforts to destroy tunnels that Hamas is increasingly using to mount cross-border attacks. The death toll in Gaza rose to 571 on Monday, the Palestinian Health Ministry said. It is up more than 300 in the four days since Israel's ground invasion began. More than 149 children are among the dead, the officials said. Seven more Israeli soldiers were killed on Monday, four of them in a raid by Hamas militants who infiltrated southern Israel through a tunnel. There have been five such raids in five days. Twenty-five soldiers and two civilians have been killed, 20 of the soldiers in the past two days. That is more than double the combined total of 10 soldiers killed for Israel's last two conflicts with Hamas in 2012 and 2008-9. "We don't want to see any more civilians getting killed," Mr. Obama said after he dispatched his top diplomat, Secretary of State John Kerry, to Cairo for open-ended negotiations on a cease-fire. "I have instructed him to push for an immediate cessation of hostilities based on a return to the November 2012 cease-fire agreement between Israel and Hamas in Gaza." Mr. Kerry said the U.S. was deeply concerned about the consequences of Israel's "appropriate and legitimate" effort to defend itself. "No country can stand by when rockets are attacking it and tunnels are dug in order to come into your country and assault your people," he said. "But always, in any kind of conflict, there is a concern about civilians—about children, women, communities that are caught in it."
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    Classy Israelis, you can't hide this sort of shit from the rest of the world. You have over 500 causalities and then you want a truce lol?

    Hospital Shelled by Israeli Forces as Gaza Toll Tops 500


    U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry arrived in Cairo seeking to mediate a truce that would end the fighting in Gaza, as the conflict enters a third week with a mounting death toll. Kerry said he’s in the region to support an Egyptian cease-fire initiative that foundered last week when it was rejected by Hamas, which controls the Gaza Strip. Hamas says it wasn’t consulted on the proposal, and has called for any accord to lift economic curbs on Gaza. Israel said it would accept the plan.
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    This article brings up a great point, through great efforts they are duping the entire Gaza situation through shame and manipulation... It's good to take notes and tallies of all that is happening and see how it all gets white-washed. Luckily some of the gliberals are taking note only because they see the Palestinians as browns and the Jews as evil whites..
    Controlling Hollywood’s message on Gaza

    The most recent Gaza slaughter presents another situation where the public pronouncements of people who matter have to be squelched. This is a community that most definitely does not believe in free speech (see Brenton Sanderson’s current article on the situation in Australia.) Of course, as in the “Jews control Hollywood” theme (see below), these things keep popping up, so pressure must be brought to bear. An article in JTA sums up some of the current examples (“From Selena Gomez to Howard Stern, celebs squabble over Gaza in tweets and rants“). Basically, these celebrities had the mistaken view that Gaza is a humanitarian crisis so one could feel sympathy for the victims. So they impulsively put out messages of sympathy for the Gazans, as good liberals should. Only to be subjected to powerful blow back, causing most of them to quickly backpedal. The prize for quickest turnaround goes to Rihanna “who tweeted #Free Palestine, only to delete the tweet eight minutes later and subsequently post a picture of a Jewish and Arab boy walking arm in arm with the message, ‘Let’s pray for peace and a swift end to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict!’” Just how low the bar is for offending the pro-Israel community can be seen with Selena Gomez who urged her Instagram followers to “Pray for Gaza,” then followed up a few hours later to add that she was “not picking any sides.” That was more than enough for Joan Rivers, who capped off a pro-Israel tirade by sarcastically mocking Gomez as “that college grad,” then added, “Let’s see if she can spell Palestinian.” Expressing sympathy for the slaughter of Gazans is far too partisan for the censors.

    The opinions of celebrities matter to a lot of people. Hence the terror felt by Marvin Hier of the Simon Wiesenthal Center when Penelope Cruz and others signed a letter accusing the IDF of “genocide” in Gaza. Hier’s tactic was to find a non-Jewish celebrity who could be counted on to have the right attitude. That would be John Voight who is in a class by himself when it comes to philosemitism. From Jew or Not Jew:
    Voight is not Jewish, although from the looks of things, he might as well be. A long-time host of the Chabad Telethon, he has extensively studied the Torah and Hasidic literature. He counts a number of rabbis as his friends, has addressed the congregation in a Hollywood synagogue on Yom Kippur, and seeks out Chabad centers on his travels.
    Voight performed as expected, noting that “Israel has always labored for a peaceful relation with its Arab neighbors” (!) and accusing the miscreants of inciting anti-Semitism.
    Whether it was Voight’s letter or the numerous other critiques of the couple, the pushback worked. Cruz released a statement noting that she was “not an expert on the situation” and that she only wished to promote peace.
    Others did the same:
    In fact a number of the celebrities who have spoken out on the Gaza conflict have followed a pattern similar to that of Cruz and [Javier] Bardem — a gesture in sympathy with the Palestinians (sometimes paired with harsh criticism of Israel) followed by criticism that leads to backtracking (possibly with the caveat that no bigotry was intended), finally capped off with a vague call for peace.
    Madonna atoned for her gaffe of referring to the “innocent children of GAZA” by condemning Hamas and posting “a picture of herself with a pair of bare-topped, muscled back-up dancers — one wearing a Jewish star on his muscled abs, the other a Muslim crescent.” Madonna is nothing if not tasteful.
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    Some celebrities I hadn’t heard of didn’t back down, cooperating in a video put out by Jewish Voice for Peace (Eve Ensler, Mandy Patinkin, Roger Waters, Chuck D and Brian Eno), so we will have to see what becomes of their careers.
    Jackie Mason (an ordained rabbi) is quite clear that these people should suffer professional consequences—that the Jews who run Hollywood should punish celebrities who offend the pro-Israel crowd, specifically mentioning Gomez, Cruz, and Rihanna.
    Say what?? Jews own the studios and have power to punish Hollywood celebrities who oppose Jewish interests to the point that all of those mentioned by Mason backtracked on their statements? Which implies that these celebrities are afraid that indeed Hollywood Jews are acting as Jews in exerting pressure on them. I guess it’s okay when someone like Mason says it (but not Gary Oldman et al.). Also note the incredible leap from criticizing Israel to supposedly hating all Jews. Mason is definitely on the fanatical end of the spectrum of fanaticism, but it’s the kind of fanaticism that can’t hurt in Hollywood. I rather doubt that he will suffer any professional difficulties for expressing his opinions.
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    I don't think Israel was prepared for all the Hamas tunnels, they were like damn moles.
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    The only time I ever crave wealth is when I think about what Hamas could do with it if I donated a few million. It would be worth every penny if even a single Israeli got hit with a nigger-rigged rocket.
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    It still surprises me those tunnels went undetected.
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    Hamas leader: Trump "possibly" jew

    In a recent TV interview, Hamas leader Mahmoud Al-Zahhar said that he "did not rule out the possibility" that Trump was a Jew, because he "loves the Jews" and "loves the Jewish religion." "The most important thing in the Jewish religion is Jewish money," said Al-Zahhar in the interview, which was broadcast by the Al-Jazeera network on November 9. "The Jewish religion - the Jewish dollar - is the real decisive factor" in American politics," he said.

    Al-Zahhar: "To tell you the truth, [Trump] has presented several policies that point to true ignorance with regard to American history. When he makes statements against the Mexican settlers, or against the Arab immigrants, who are fleeing the inferno in the countries you mentioned, or against the Africans – well, the U.S. is a country of settlers to begin with. He should ask his father where he came from. The president before [Trump] was an African settler.

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    "Trump loves the Jews, and not only because he likes the Jewish religion. I do not rule out the possibility that he is a Jew. He loves the Jewish religion, and the most important thing in the Jewish religion is Jewish money.

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    "In 1947, Harry Truman was a marginal candidate in the U.S. elections. He was approached by the Jewish money – which is the Jewish religion – and was awarded two million dollars, which made his electoral campaign prosper, because in American society you hand out money, you hand out pictures, posters, hats, and so on, and people who do not read at all are exposed to this. The outcome was that he won. Truman's first decision – driven by those two million dollars – was to recognize the Israeli entity in 1948. So the Jewish 'religion' – the Jewish dollar – is the real decisive factor.

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    "I advise everybody to watch [American] wrestling matches, and to see how the crowd reacts to the wrestlers, how it relates to this unnatural violence. That is their culture, their model for heroism: obscene language, obscene acts, obscene declarations, and obscene attacks on other countries. That is the [American] culture and upbringing. That is their true religion.

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    "With regard to sexual scandals – none of their presidents were immune to that. There was President Clinton before him and countless other names, and I'm only talking about the cases that were revealed. That is their culture, and this is their belief."

    Interviewer: "Is this the culture of the [American] people as well?"

    Al-Zahhar: "Yes, it is."
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    I cant bash Israelis for fighting with the Koranimals in Gaza and the West Bank.
    Muslims in the Levant and North Africa are slaughtering Christians in mass numbers and ancient Christian communities in Syria and Iraq may go extinct.
    If the "Palestinians" formed a 23rd Arab nation no Christians would be living there.
    I don't see how white nationalists can support any Arabs or Muslims.

    If anything we should applaud the Israelis killing those sand niggers before they migrate to the EU or USA and form a terror cell.
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