NYC Police seize enough fentanyl "to kill half the city"

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    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-09/police-seize-enough-fentanyl-kill-half-nyc-recent-bust

    Police Seize Enough Fentanyl "To Kill Half Of NYC" In Recent Bust


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    The opioid crisis is killing tens of thousands of Americans a year as powerful synthetic drugs like fentanyl are increasingly mixed in with the heroin supply, killing unsuspecting addicts in greater numbers. These lab-manufactured opioids and their pharmacological cousins are so powerful, a 20-pound mixture of fentanyl and heroin that was recently seized by law enforcement was said to contain enough of the narcotic to kill half of New York City’s 9 million residents,according to one Drug Enforcement Administration agent who spoke with Consumerist.
    The drugs were taken when DEA agents busted a heroin mill operating out of an apartment across the street from Central Park. Police arrested four men, including one who was posing as an Uber driver, for their alleged involvement in the drug-distributing ring.
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    According to NYC’s department of Health and Mental Hygiene, fentanyl – which is 50 times more potent than heroin - is driving a spike in fatal overdoses, which reached an all-time high of 1,374 deaths in 2016, a 46% increase over 2015. Nationwide, the rate of drug-related deaths per 100,000 people peaked at 19.7 during the third quarter, up from 16.7 during the same period a year earlier, according to government data released Tuesday. The increase was driven largely by opioids, specifically fentanyl, carfentanil and other synthetics. Deaths from drug overdoses in the US are believed to have surpassed the 60,000 mark last year.
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    “Fentanyl is the deadliest street drug to ever hit this country,” said DEA Special Agent-in-Charge James J. Hunt. “This seizure alone contains enough potency to kill half of the population of New York City, if laboratory analysis proves it is all fentanyl. Fentanyl is manufactured death that drug dealers are mixing with heroin.”
    Here’s an account of the bust, courtesy of Consumerist:


    “DEA agents were conducting surveillance near the building on Central Park West on Aug. 4 when they saw one defendant leaving with two boxes inside a large shopping bag. He got into a vehicle driven by another defendant, an Uber driver, with agents following behind.

    Investigators stopped the vehicle, and observed the suspect sitting in the backseat with two boxes: One box was open and they could see a clear plastic bag containing a tan powdery substance inside.

    After looking more closely at that box — the larger of the two — investigators say they also saw six large cylindrical packages wrapped in tape and plastic wrap.

    And in the smaller box, officials spotted a large cylindrical package wrapped in tape and plastic wrap, and a clear plastic bag containing a tan powdery substance.

    Agents seized the packages, and arrested both the Uber driver and the passenger. Meanwhile, investigators kept watching the building, and eventually observed a man previously identified as a member of a drug trafficking organization exiting with another man. When questioned by agents, he said he lived in the building, and admitted to having a gun and drugs in the apartment."
    The bust also generated some laughable headlines. According to the Verge, the dealers had branded the some of the packaged heroin with the Uber logo. The drug crew used other corporate logos, like McDonald’s, as well as generic names like “Black Friday.”
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    President Donald Trump’s Commission on Drug Addiction and Combating the Opioid Crisis urged the president to declare a state of emergency to help combat the crisis. On Tuesday, Trump said the US has “no alternative” but to triumph over the crisis.
    The US already has the highest rate of drug-related deaths in the world.
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    I get the feeling that this is part of some white genocide plan :jew:
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    Nah, just culling the herd.
    Idk anyone who uses it, do you?
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    foto of donald trump tackling the opiod crisis -

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    Wouldn't surprise me, but I think most of this comes from China.

    It really wouldn't surprise me if the Chinese are flooding the USA with ecstasy, bath salts, and opioids to help speed the demise of our little late-stage ZOG world-empire here though either.
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    heroin is being cut with fentanyl simply because fentanyl is many levels stronger. It can mean the difference of smuggling a suitcase or a seacan. If heroin were legal(as it should be) there wouldn't be quality control issues like this and it'd prevent the deaths of many of thousands of ppl.
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    Why should herion be legal?
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    One of my uncles died of a heroin overdose. Everyone who smuggles or sells it should be thrown off a building, and every poppy field should be burned to the ground.
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    well its seems prtty obvious this whole 'drug war' thing has never worked and never will. Opiod users and addicts should simply be able to access the drug safely and not pay a 100x markup because its black market. a hundred yrs ago u could walk into a pharmacy and purchase pure pharmaceutical grade heroin at an affordable price. There was no opiod crisis then. There is now because we have way more damaged and broken people in our time looking to deal with their pain whether it be psychological or physical or both(thats y ppl take opiates, for pain). Legalizing it and providing better treatment options is rlly the only logical route to take.
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    @Giada : 119,097 Points (Sorry for your loss.) 2 minutes ago

    Thanks, it was actually 17 years ago. It still makes me angry though, whenever the idea of legalizing drugs gets floated.
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    This is a good read, even if it's the NYT, drug addiction affects the whole family, not just the addict. https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/07/...?q=the lawyer the addict ny times&form=APIPH1
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    drug prohibition is retarded, it has never worked and never will. More ppl do drugs now than ever and it has very little to do with the legality of drugs. Treatment, not punishment, is the only reasonable way to deal with drug addiction. Especially in the case of opiods where the vast majority of users are using the drug to deal with genuine pain they are suffering from. Its not like a cokehead or e-tard or methhead just getting high to fuck or dance all nite. These are ppl in real pain who need help for their problems.
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    Ok.
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    something that is rarely brought up is the high price of illegal drugs is a big part of the drug problem. Ppl growing broke feeding their addictions. If they were more affordable the downward spiral wuld not be nearly as fast or as devastating.
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    Read that article, social/economic factors don't play into it.

    They need to start showing the movie Traffic in middle school.
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    the economic side of it is mcuh more harmful than any negative health effects from using opiods. U can use opiods ur entire life and die a relatively healthy old man or woman. there are many opiod addicts who live completely normal lives, just on opiates, and they dont endup in the gutter because they can afford it.
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    It's a very nuanced and tricky argument. I'm not sure if I buy into the "legalize heroin" argument like I used to after seeing the soul-destroying effects of this drug firsthand. I might be more in favor of decriminalizing some aspects of heroin use. The problem is that a lot of junkies quite simply don't want to get clean. Moreover, there's something about my old-school White guy that really has a hard time with just giving junkies free access to drugs as it creates a sort of "oh well, if I get addicted I'll just get free dope and get on one of these government get-clean programs, man..." sort of entitlement.

    I have watched heroin and methamphetamine destroy several people and even though I've tried both drugs (and in fact, at the tail end of my "party days" I even once went on a summer-long meth bender courtesy of some 15mg Desoxyn tablets) and can even agree that under a more "self-responsible" sort of society limited amounts of these can probably even be used by people to legitimately self-medicate on occasion (e.g., back when I was in college methamphetamine was largely viewed as a study aid, and the vast, vast majority of people I knew who tried it did not develop a problem with it) there's still something a bit creepy to me about selling these sort of things over-the-counter to anyone who wants them. I don't know: when you see a loved one with no veins left in their arms and their hands are always cold because they don't get enough blood in them anymore it just kind of does something to you.

    Revilo Oliver more or less summed up my feelings on the subject a quarter of a century ago -- one of his best essays, in my opinion:
    http://www.revilo-oliver.com/rpo/sane1.htm

    WHEN WE WERE SANE
    by Dr. Revilo P. Oliver
    (Liberty Bell, January 1992)

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    The picture above is reproduced from the cover of Science News, 7 September 1991, where it appears without identification or explanation to call attention to an article about the effect of excessive use of cocaine on the foetus of pregnant women. It is obviously an advertisement that appeared in many newspapers in the 1890s or early 1900s and was also issued as a handbill printed in colors.
    The advertisement comes from a time when cocaine 1, a tincture prepared from the leaves of the coca plant, was carried in stock by all pharmacies and available to any purchaser. It was generally used as an analgesic and local anaesthetic in ophthalmology and dentistry, where compounds of it are still employed. The cocaine drops here advertised were undoubtedly effective and infallibly relieved toothache; a small vial of them was certainly worth the cost, fifteen cents (real money, not the intrinsically worthless trading stamps printed by the fraud called the Federal Reserve). If the drops were now available, I would suggest that you keep some on hand.
    As everyone knows, a seven-percent solution of cocaine was taken intravenously by Sherlock Holmes when he had no absorbing problem to occupy his mind; in two or three of the stories Dr. Watson mildly remarks that habitual reliance on cocaine may be deleterious to health. Cocaine is also a stimulant, like chocolate, that provides energy and temporarily replaces food; the leaves of the coca 2 plant are chewed (with a little powdered lime) by the natives in Chile, Peru, and Bolivia, giving them remarkable powers of endurance, and the leaves are probably necessary for hard labor at high altitudes in the Andes. Cocaine was used as a mild stimulant in the Edwardian Age.
    As he remarks in his memoirs, Harry Elmer Barnes, when he worked as a clerk in a drug store to earn money for college, commonly sold cocaine to customers. So did countless other men employed in pharmacies. It was recommended by many physicians 3, who naturally did not write prescriptions for a medicine available over the counter in every pharmacy and in many general stores. Proprietary tonics containing cocaine as the active ingredient were on sale everywhere and obtainable from Sears, Roebuck & Co. and other mail-order houses. Cocaine was also the active ingredient of a patented beverage, frankly called "Coca-cola," that was then coming into general use and was especially commended and promoted by "temperance workers" as a pleasant and wholesome substitute for beer, wine, and whisky, which contained the diabolical and soul-destroying drug called alcohol.
    Holy men were probably yapping about cocaine. They are always yapping about something in a disgruntled effort to regain the power and pleasure they had in the Great Age of Protestantism, when they could imprison sinners who danced, engaged in mummery, witnessed theatrical performances, celebrated Christmas 4, or otherwise offended their strange God; when they could punish persons who laughed on Sunday by putting them in the stocks and exposing them to rotten tomatoes and similar missiles thrown in their faces by the jeering rabble, while God's men chortled with satisfied righteousness.
    As I vaguely recall -- the point is not worth the effort of looking it up -- in Massachusetts and Illinois the social reformers did procure legislation intended to make cocaine and similar drugs available only on prescription, to the profit of the medical profession (in those far-off days it was a profession, not a business). But in the years around 1900 the holy men and their sedulous apes, "do-gooders," chiefly fat-headed women, were concentrating their efforts on routing Satan's chief lieutenant, the Demon Rum, and on prohibiting use of the devil's weed in the wicked form of cigarettes 5. They did succeed in inducing prohibition of alcoholic beverages in five or six of the more rustic states 6 and in quite a few backward towns or similar localities, and in prohibiting cigarettes in Wisconsin, Kansas, and perhaps some other states in which Bible-banging was endemic.
    As I have frequently pointed out before 7, in the Nineteenth and early Twentieth Centuries opium was also on sale in all pharmacies, especially in the form of its tincture, laudanum, and kept on hand in many households, as is aspirin today, for the relief of insomnia, headaches, and arthritic or rheumatic pain. The most common derivative of opium, morphine, for injection by hypodermic syringe, was also freely available, recommended by many physicians as a sedative and anodyne, and was warmly commended by some reformers as a means of ending dependence on nasty alcohol. Chemists produced, by fairly intricate processes, other derivatives of morphine, which had a limited use 8.
    When cocaine, laudanum, and similar narcotics were comparatively inexpensive and available to everyone, there was no problem of 'drug addiction.' That is a highly significant fact and worthy of your best attention.
    There was no problem (except in the clamor of the "unco' guid") because our racial ethos had not yet been nullified by our enemies and fools, and we skill retained, on the whole, the sanity of common sense.
    It was known, of course, that the drugs in question could become addictive through excessive or continual use of them, but most things are addictive. Aspirin and all somniferent and 'tranquilizing' medicines are notoriously addictive. Coffee, tobacco, and sweetmeats undoubtedly are, and sugar can produce a compulsive addiction 9. Old men, who can remember a time when college athletics were an activity of actual undergraduates, instead of a business with ignorant but highly paid performers 10, may have known young graduates who had become so addicted to daily exercise that they found it difficult and painful to adjust to sedentary employment.
    All forms of addiction are psychic as well as physical, and craving for the sensations produced by the drug is probably more potent than the strictly physiological reaction of a body accustomed to it. Some of the most baneful addictions, indeed, produce no physical symptoms. A recent "survey" reports that Americans (including children) spend an average of seven hours a day staring at their boob-tubes, usually in a state of hypnotic trance, the consciousness receiving impressions without the intervention of thought. In its effect on our people, that form of addiction is far more baneful than the total of addiction to cocaine, heroin, marijuana, 'crack,' and similar drugs.
    In the era before there was a "drug problem," it was known, of course, that some men and even women became ruinously addicted to cocaine and opium, just as a great many became hopelessly addicted to whisky or gin or even beer, but it was rationally assumed that, with a very few possible exceptions in extraordinary circumstances, the addicts were, in the words of the eminent British pharmacologist, Edward Morell Holmes, weak-willed "moral imbeciles" who were commonly also "addicted to other forms of depravity." It was also rationally taken for granted that the sooner such individuals rid society of themselves, the better. Although sentimental women may squawk, that is simply true -- a necessary truth enforced by biological processes and ignored only by nations that are themselves not fit to survive in the harsh reality of the natural world. That may seem cruel to persons addicted to lying to themselves about the real world, but it is the common sense that is apparent to everyone not hopelessly addicted to hallucinatory drugs or superstitions.
    For example, in Trollope's Doctor Thorne, perhaps the best volume in the Barchester series, Sir Louis, the son of the nouveau riche engineer, Scatchard, destroys himself with brandy -- and a very good thing it is too, for everyone concerned 11. A friend kindly sent me a whole sheaf of cuttings from newspapers in San Francisco and Sacramento that describe the prevalent and almost epidemic addiction to "crack" (synthesized amphetamines) and "ice" (crystallized methamphetamine), relatively cheap substitutes for cocaine and heroin. Assuming that the addicts interviewed or seen by the journalists were accurately described, it is sheer madness for a society to waste money in efforts to save such creatures from themselves. Despite the journalists' obligatory efforts to conceal the facts of race, it was obvious that most of the addicts were animated garbage that should never have been admitted to, or subsidized in, this country, while a comparatively few were degenerates of our race.
    A sane society, instead of wasting its resources on efforts to salvage such worthless wreckage, would tacitly encourage all such addicts to eliminate themselves as soon as possible, thus mitigating the most noxious and dangerous form of environmental pollution.
    The nature of what is called 'addiction' is generally misunderstood. The effects are largely determined by heredity, i.e., both by intellectual capacity, which is entirely genetic and only elicited or blighted by education, and by a genetically determined propensity to addiction.
    De Quincy was brilliant, even as a boy; he became addicted to opium to relieve neuralgia when he was nineteen or twenty, but that did not prevent him from becoming one of the great and universally acknowledged masters of English literature. He was the master of his addiction, not enslaved by it. When it became harmful, he was able to discontinue the use of opium, to resume it later when he needed an anodyne to sorrow, and again to discontinue use of the pleasurable narcotic. There is no evidence that he sustained any demonstrable physical or mental injury from his use of opium.
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    1.. Cocaine (C17H21NO4.) is sometimes called benzoylmethyl ecgonine by persons who, for some reason, wish to avoid the common term.
    2. Coca (Erythroxylon coca), the source of cocaine, must not be confused with another South American plant, cacao (Theobroma cacao), the source of chocolate, a drug which produces similar but much milder effects.
    3. It was also enthusiastically recommended by the Kike who did so much to convince the world that the Jews' sexual obsessions were a function of human nature. Freud was himself an addict of the drug he recommended; see his Cocaine Papers, which are available in a good English translation that I cannot locate on my shelves at this moment. Carl Jung was, I believe, the first to denounce the inherent fallacy of the Freudian hoax: "It is an unpardonable mistake to accept the conclusions of a Jewish psychology as generally valid." (Two Essays on Analytical Psychology = Collected Works, Vol. VII [= Bollingen Series, Vol. XX] (2d ed., New York, Pantheon Books, 1966), p.152.
    4. You will recall that John Evelyn in his diary describes the incident in which he and some close friends, who had foregathered to celebrate secretly the traditional rites of Christmas, were denounced by some spy or informer, and were surprised and caught, flagrante delicto, by a file of soldiers who arrested them for criminal merriment.
    5. It should be noted that tobacco was evil when used in cigarettes, but not when used in cigars, which were smoked by politicians who would not have tolerated curtailment of their own favorite means of relaxation, and not when smoked in pipes or used as snuff, for there was a limit to the meddling that farmers and the like would endure from dervishes. Cigarettes were comparatively expensive and chiefly smoked by college students and other fashionable young men, although they were also used in private by some women who were so immoral they put powder on their shameless faces.
    6. Maine, Iowa, Kansas, North Dakota, Oklahoma, and perhaps others. In some states the prohibition was frankly intended only to keep liquor out of the hands of niggers and Indians and often of the White proletariat also. The Puritans of New England had such fits of do-gooding in the early part of the century, but promptly repented, and around the 1880s some states, including Illinois, temporarily lapsed into such legislative foolishness, but soon came to their senses. Everyone remembers the insanity of national Prohibition, enacted by holy men and do-gooders, who, as often happens, were in alliance with ambitious criminal syndicates and the Communists, eager to establish a precedent for subversion of the nation and the enslavement of free men. Oklahoma, even after 1933, tried to exclude spirituous liquors from the state, and I can remember having entered the state in an automobile of which the trunk was weighted down with cases of bottled cheer for an acquaintance who lived in that desert. That is an adequate commentary on the whole folly of legislated uplift.
    7. Especially in Liberty Bell, July 1987, pp. 9-11; February 1990, pp. 11-14.
    8. What is now the best known and most widely used derivative, diacetylmorphine, was developed by the Bayer Corporation, which became the foremost producer of drugs to alleviate pain and comparable distress. The corporation marketed with great success both acetylsalicylic acid, for which it devised the trade name 'aspirin,' and diacetylmorphine, to which it gave a name with commendatory connotation, 'heroin.' The latter was specifically approved and recommended by the American Medical Association as an alternative to morphine, especially when hypodermic injection was to be avoided. See David F. Musto, The American Disease: the Origins of Narcotics Control (New Haven, Connecticut; Yale University Press, 1973).
    9. I was once acquainted with a young Englishwoman from a good county family, an undergraduate in one of the Oxford women's colleges, who could make a two-pound box of chocolate creams evaporate faster than a drop of ether. She could have been a pretty blonde, but at seventeen or eighteen she was already uncomely and unpleasingly pudgy, having sacrificed face and figure to her bulimia. She was said to be doing passable work in her college, but her mentality, possibly affected by her vice, was apparent in her denigration of her family's social position and her poise as an "intellectual" who (c. 1930) told everyone, "I'm awffy keen about Laybah; ahen't you?"
    10. Not long ago a nigger coach in a large university was accustomed to offer $80,000, a sports-model automobile, and, by implication, a copious supply of White whores to long-legged and long-armed niggers whom he wanted to hire to play basketball for his institution. Some of his prospects were so stupid that they boasted of the offer to everyone they knew and tried to use it to obtain more largesse from other "educational" institutions, so there was a minor scandal that took a little while to hush up, but I am told that the practice in now virtually universal.
    11. The novel is realistic (except for the probability that Sir Louis also had vices of which Victorian readers were determined to remain ignorant), and you need only consider how doleful would have been the catastrophe, had not Sir Louis removed himself from a world that he encumbered. You may take this as an instance of what happened many times in Victorian society, almost always with benefit to innocent and decent persons, though sometimes with regrettable hardship or sorrow to others.
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    That's only half of it. It's also many levels cheaper because you can easily and order large quantities of fentanyl analogs (which most street fentanyl really is) from online vendors of "research chemicals" and other places that are just open about the designer drugs and steroids they sell by the kilo. All major credit cards are accepted at most of them.

    And yeah, it is all coming from China. I honestly think they would do the same to their own people, but what do I know? Those little bastards make designer versions of pretty much anything you're not supposed to have. Anabolic agents, stimulants, depressants, opioids, hallucinogens, deliriants, disassociatives, hard-on pills, birth control, abortion pills, HIV meds... you name it.

    These aren't hidden labs making meth in a bathtub. We're talking about enormous factories cranking out TONS of this shit every year, openly advertising their trade as street chemists. Some of these same places also make food additives and cosmetics you use, and don't even get me started on the dog food that comes from China. Their safety standards and quality control regulations are obviously far lower. Most of the designer drugs they sell are untested new chemical variants of known drugs, and many of these will never have a street value because they have undesirable effects. There is absolutely zero long term data on chemicals being ingested by millions of people.

    Legalizing (many)drugs would crush most of the Chinese clandestine chemistry industry. Heroin is still a lot better than fentanyl, and almost all heroin overdoses in the US are due to it being cut with designer fentanyl analogs. I'm sure its only a matter of time before someone here announces their brilliant master plan to simply kill everyone who uses, buys, sells, transports, grows or makes this shit, and I wish you luck with that. Drugs have been here forever, they will continue to be here at least as long as humans will, and people will never stop using them because they're awesome. If there was ever a real risk of drugs becoming completely unavailable, most of the world's elite would quickly rise to crush those efforts, and they'd do it out of utter terror at the idea of their personal favorite breakfast never being served again.

    So unless you completely abstain from alcohol, tobacco, caffeine, psych meds(not looking at anyone in particular), chamomile tea and anything else that has even the mildest mind-altering effects, you're ALL a bunch of drug users.
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    That's another amazing thing about fentanyl and its analogues. It's been some years since I had an interest in this sort of thing (and I never really had an interest in the chemistry of opioids -- was much more into "psychedelic amphetamines" of the MDMA variety) but I know that there are fentanyl analogues that have been proposed that are potentially psychoactive in nanogram quantitities. At the time a lot of these were only hypothetical since, needless to say, manufacturing something that will kill you in nanogram quantities presents a formidable challenge even for a highly skilled chemist and the cost/reward benefit just isn't there. I'm surprised that it took fentanyl this long to become a bona-fide problem. It's not terribly difficult to manufacture and some of the more potent analogues can even be several times more active.

    Some may remember when "The Wizard of Wichita", a very famous underground chemist named George Marquardt, was arrested back in (I think) 1993 or manufacturing a fentanyl analogue that ended up killing a couple of hundred junkies back during this time. (You've just inspired me to do a search for Marquardt, as I'm wondering if anyone has done a piece on him considering fentanyl is back in the news. It looks like I hit massive paydirt with this one, so let me post this on another thread.)

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