Matthew Heimbach Blames Trump To Save His Own Ass

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    POLITICS 04/17/2017 11:47 pm ET

    White Nationalist Accused Of Assault At Rally Says He Was Following Trump's 'Directives' | The Huffington Post

    So any liability in the lawsuit filed by protesters “must be shifted” to the president, he argues.

    By Mary Papenfuss



    A white nationalist accused of assaulting a protester at a Donald Trump campaign rally is insisting in a federal court action that he was following a “directive” from Trump, who ordered his audience at the time to “get ‘em out of here.”

    Matthew Heimbach and another Trump supporter have been sued by plaintiffs Kashiya Nwanguma, Molly Shah and Henry Brousseau, who say they were assaulted during a Trump campaign rally in Louisville in March 2016 — some of which was captured on a video that went viral. Trump and the Trump campaign are also named in the suit, accused of incitement to riot and recklessness. Trump is heard on tape ordering the audience to “get ‘em out of here.”

    Louisville U.S. District Judge David Hale ruled last month that the suit could proceed after he determined that the protesters’ injuries may have been a “direct and proximate result” of Trump’s statements, that “at least implicitly encouraged the use of violence or lawless action.”

    Heimbach said in his countersuit filed Monday in Louisville that he “acted pursuant to the directives and requests” of Trump and the Trump campaign. If he’s found liable for damages “liability must be shifted to one or both of them,” the filing states.

    Heimbach, a leader of the white supremacist Traditionalist Worker Party, claims he believed Trump had the legal authority to order people removed.

    Another man sued in the case, veteran Alvin Bamberger of Ohio, has also turned on Trump. He said that whatever he did was at Trump’s urging. “Bamberger would not have acted as he did without Trump and/or the Trump Campaign’s specific urging and inspiration,” states his countersuit, which was filed in Louisville federal court on Friday.

    Trump “repeatedly urged people attending” his rallies to “remove individuals who were voicing opposition to Trump’s candidacy,” the suit adds. He also often “promised to pay the legal fees of those who — following Trump’s urgings — removed the protesters,” according to the lawsuit.

    Both men have also claimed they’re innocent of any assault.

    Trump’s attorneys have denied the allegations and asked the court to dismiss the case, arguing that their client is “immune” from lawsuits “because he is president.”

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    Blaming TrUMP et al. is the new excuse for enaging in criminality eh?. :frown:

    'Donald Trump made me go rob a bank!'

    'Donald Trump made me go knock over a liquor store!'

    'Donald Trump made me engage in check fraud/forgery!'

    'Donald Trump made me beat my wife and tear the tag off of my mattress!'

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    Fuckin' rat-bastard.
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    Donald Trump is to blame for irregular bowel movements among seniors here.
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    The creature is a jew, like those 'alternate right' jews sidetracking whites telling the truth about the genocidal attack on themselves, orchestrated by who else? Jews. Zio=Nazis Controlling both sides of every movement.
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    "FAT" bastard.

    His head looks like a fuckin' Snorlax.

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    Heimbach is an idiot who tries to rectify his Orthodox Christian faith with his working class, ethno-nationalist politics. He was actually excommunicated from his church for his racialist views. :lol: The imbecile even praised places like North Korea and Cuba. He called Castro and Chavez 'revolutionaries' that the right should learn from. Never mind that fascism (or in this case, National Socialism) stands in direct opposition to communism.
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    Wow what a POS. Is this guy a double agent or just a retard with the IQ of a golf ball?

    He's HELPING our enemies.
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    y would anyone in their right mind join the russian orthodox church? Have u been smoking crack? Wat makes u think this fried fat ball of lard should become an orthodox?
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    I like the Orthodox myself, at least the Greek Orthodox, who cannot be far removed from the Russian variant. They are like 1950's Catholics, except they allow married priests. They are anti-modernist, remaining politically incorrect. And around here they have some beautiful churches, unlike Protestant sects. Much of the same can be said for Ukrainian Catholics. I've personally flirted with the idea of 'converting' myself, primarily because goin' Mormon would be a little too drastic for me. But then I remember that I don't care about religion all that much, viewing such preferences as akin to one's entertainment or music genre tastes... It's just an accessory that keeps me from being lumped together with the atheists and agnostics who utilize their identification as a fashionable means to bolster their intellectual insecurity.

    Hell, what am I even saying, I'm technically a German Marcionite.
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    ya but ur not russian, not even remotely russian, and would never truly fit in in a russian church nor any eastern church. Eastern orthodox is a very regional ethnic religion and if ur not from that region or share their blood ur just larping. U might as well start wearing a kimono and convert to shintoism.
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    big larping cultureless amerifats will never be orthodox no matter how many cabbages they eat or vodka shots they swill. They will always just be larping and likely be making a tremendous ass of themselves.
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    I used to go to an Orthodox church a long, long time ago. It is essentially LARPing.
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    First, like Rouge said, it's still technically a universalist religion. The Greek Orthodox Church has included almost everyone at some point, at least historically speaking. The same can even be said of "Greek" as an "ethnicity." In their several imperial eras, all Greek speakers became classified as "Greek," even if they weren't from Hellas or were even Asiatic. The fact that it doesn't include more ethnicities is just a product of geopolitical historical outcomes. It has nothing to do with the theology itself. Furthermore, in America, I wouldn't be the first Roman Catholic of a slightly conservative bent to convert to Greek Orthodox.

    Secondly, even if what you say is true, you understand that makes the churches more attractive according to my set of preferences, right? A church community that stays insular, cohesive, and loyal to its founding peoples no longer exists in any of the other mainstream Christian churches, at least in the West. As for larping, well, I would be a convert previously rooted in another religious community, so I suppose it may feel like inauthentic larping to some degree. But I couldn't act the fool by turning myself into a poseur zealot, which is Fokker-level larping.
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    i didnt mean it as a personal attack on u but i did mean it as a personal attack on the vast majority who may consider converting to eastern orthodox. They might be able to break into these kinds of communities if they were socially connected to them, thru marriage perhaps. Otherwise no ull always be an interloper in their community. Sure it may of been 'universal' at one point but its certainly not today by any means. It is not appropriate for most americans(of non-eastern origin - most americans) to convert to eastern churches whether they be orthodox or coptic or marionite catholic or watever. They simply dont belong and never will. Most of these types(like urself) are just culturless socially isolated individuals looking for a community and not finding one amongst ur own blood or religion u must look to other peoples. It's perfectly natural just eastern orthodox is not a good fit.
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    I don't lack my own community or even a culture. I'm just not very loyal to either when it comes down to it, at least not to the extent that I would refuse to exercise an option more suited to my personal preferences. But you're right about one thing: I wouldn't join those communities without being married into one.

    You shouldn't use the phrase "culture-less Americans" when you essentially live in a colony of the American imperium. East coast Canadians and French Canadians are so devoid of culture that they vacation in Wildwood, NJ, alongside the Irish trash of Philadelphia and certain parts of south Jersey. If Americans are fully without culture, then so is every country that has been absorbed into McWorld. At least pertaining to individuals born after the debut of MTV.

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