Is Milo Yiannopoulos A Friend, Foe... Or Something Else?

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Is Milo Yiannopoulos A Friend, Foe... Or Something Else?

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  1. Man Against Time Black Hole Melchizedek

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    I'm posting this link more so that people can view the user comments themselves to gauge average public sentiment:
    http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/...epublicans-release-statement-milo-disruption/
    People are starting to see the need for active and potentially even violent resistance to these radicals.

    I wonder what the response would be, theoretically, to Hillary just stealing the Presidential election. Because that's what it's going to come down to at the very end. Notice all of the last minute political maneuvers hatched by Democrats to enfranchise degenerates, all in the hope of s(t)ealing the deal.

    It's going to get ugly very soon. Can white people riot?
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    He's just an attention seeking self promoting troll.
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    All faggots are basically insincere narcissists who believe in nothing but themselves.
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    All I see here between the "right"and "left" are two troupes of monkeys flinging poo at each other.
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    They can't even name the Jew without twisting themselves into moral pretzels and narking on each other, and you're waiting for riots...?
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    I don't know if I should laugh or cry. :frown:

    IMO, Milo is an antagonist and entertaining, rip off of Perez Hilton.
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    That's my take on him as well. Just an angry faggot looking for attention and taking jabs at the groups who hate his kind the most. He belongs to a protected class and relies on that for his full time trolling career.

    Were he to publicly acknowledge that his sexual preference is a mental illness and condemn the queer lifestyle, I might be take a kinder view of his antics.
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    the 'alt-right' is heavily pro-homosexual. Many alt-rightists are secularist shitlibs who just hopped onto the h8 islam bandwagon. These types should not be associated with and they should be exterminated ernst rohm style if there ever were a fascist uprising.
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    Milo exposes twitter, banned for life. :agree:
    I vote hero. :agree:


    http://www.breitbart.com/milo/2016/07/19/breaking-milo-suspended-twitter-20-minutes-party/

    In a comment, Milo said “With the cowardly suspension of my account, Twitter has confirmed itself as a safe space for Muslim terrorists and Black Lives Matter extremists, but a no-go zone for conservatives.”
    “Twitter is holding me responsible for the actions of fans and trolls using the special pretzel logic of the left. Where are the Twitter police when Justin Bieber’s fans cut themselves on his behalf?”
    “Like all acts of the totalitarian regressive left, this will blow up in their faces, netting me more adoring fans. We’re winning the culture war, and Twitter just shot themselves in the foot.”
    “This is the end for Twitter. Anyone who cares about free speech has been sent a clear message: you’re not welcome on Twitter.”
    Twitter, a company in dire financial trouble, has developed a reputation for draconian, onesided and often-unexplained suspensions of conservative users.
    Meanwhile, the platform has demonstrated an unashamed bias towards progressive causes like Black Lives Matter, ignoring open calls for violence against police officers that emerged following both the Dallas and Baton Rouge shootings.
    In further indication of its political biases, Twitter also let death threats against Republican Senators remain on the platform for months without taking action.
    Previous attempts to punish Milo have generated huge backlashes from conservative users, and this one – Twitter’s most severe clampdown on the Breitbart senior editor so far – may generate the biggest yet.
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    Twitter is for stickniggers.
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    That sounds an awful lot like someone else we know.
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    Milo is just another Kike faggot trying to get so called conservatives to start accepting the faggot lifestyle.
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    But homosexuals of this so-called "cultural libertarian" bent are the least offensive and, if any can ever be found to be "acceptable" by conservatives, they are the only ones that can qualify for a modicum of acceptability. The libertarian homos are apparently against using homos as a vanguard to subvert traditional Western institutions even further, much unlike post-modern American "liberals" and progressives. In other words, the cultural libertarian homos aren't about pushing for their lifestyles to be integrated by Churches and the like. They're against being hunted down and killed for being faggots, sure, but they don't have a problem with other people exercising their freedom of association to avoid them. There is a world of difference in mindset between "live and let live" libertarians and culturally imperialist "progressives" who want to torch every institution that refuses to bow down before and make special provisions to accommodate every self-designated victim 'protected class.'

    And if conservatives aren't blinded by their own Manichaean hatred for homosexuals in general, they can certainly utilize the cultural libertarian homos like Milo to trigger and troll the progressives who want to employ homosexuals in that aforementioned vanguardist role. It's a worthy effort since the progressive demonization of libertarian/alt-right homosexuals shows that these progressives see homosexuals only as a means to an end who shouldn't have the autonomy to decide the ultimate aims of their 'homosexual rights' cause for themselves. In doing so, the 'libertarian faggots' put themselves and conservatives in the same boat in the fight against the culturally imperialist totalitarian 'progressive' Left.

    This is the self-proclaimed agenda for Milo, and it's one that conservatives are going to have to embrace since unfortunately the world has changed - this totalitarian Left has officially supplanted Christianity as the predominant moral ethos in shaping our law, society, and culture. The "Milo people" understand that, if one wants to be a "rebel" today, you're no longer "fighting the man" if you're trying to fight against "Christian heteronormative bigotry." Now unfortunately "the man" is composed of the same progressive Left that put Obama into power and who succeeded in their social revolution by turning the Federal government against the institutional bearers of traditional culture.
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    Deal with faggots at your own peril.
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    i used to think of milo as kind of funny and a bit of a joker-troll but after becoming more familiar with the 'alt-right' i realized they're all very pro-homosexual and totally onboard with normalizing homosexuality. Some of them are just as militant about homosexuality as shitliberals. They're basically nationalistic shitlibs who have a stick up their asses over mohammedans because mohammedans don't put up with their faggit bullshit.

    - this is not okay.

    texans should start to consider secession and declaring themselves a christian state with christian values because america has gone full-on gay. It really is the big gay disco now.
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    I don't use twitter, I have no use for it.
    Milo will find another social platform.
    He managed to get banned from twitter for life, that was his accomplishment.
    This was not about his sexuality.
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    milo yiannopoulos joins myspace, everyone starts going to myspace again.
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    All the libertarian homos like Milo ever do is trigger and troll the progressives, which is hardly much of an achievement. This is a guy who will say just about anything to keep the spotlight on himself, and that's really all its about for him.

    I don't hate Milo for being born with some kind of sexual dysfunction. I hate him because he's nothing but an arrogant troll who thinks he has a legion of "adoring fans".
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    I agree with you on all those points. I'm not going to pretend that I like any of his personal traits or qualities. But if he's using those same obnoxious traits for a higher good that I support, namely, inflaming the irrational passions and bigotries of progressives, then I'm likewise not going to pretend that I hate the guy for otherwise loathsome qualities that have no impact on me whatsoever.

    It all falls under the principle that an enemy of my enemy can be a friend under at least a limited set of circumstances and objectives. Obnoxious attention-seeking homosexuals are like AIDS-infested human combustibles of mass irritation that can be deployed by either side in the culture war. If Milo wants to be deployed against progressives to expose the litany of fallacies presumed as valid in their ideology as opposed to advocating for unisex bathrooms or females in the priesthood, then I support him in his public advocacy role. It does not mean by doing so that I suddenly approve of homosexuality. This supposed "heterosexual" conservative who decided to make out with Milo in public to send some message against Islam went way too far, and may possibly be a closeted queer himself. I don't endorse that sort of degeneracy either.

    Milo can also be utilized as a means to reach Millennials and to get them to vote for populist, libertarian, nationalist, and other right-wing causes. We see him doing that now by stumping for Trump and by converting all of these young pampered brats into vociferous Trump supporters. These are demographics that wouldn't necessarily be able to be reached by Buchananite policy arguments about NAFTA, deindustrialization, or cultural Marxism.

    If you want to see Milo as nothing more than a useful albeit highly reprobate idiot for a greater good, that's fine with me. I see no evidence that he's some sort of agent saboteur designed to win conservative affections and then to lead them astray in disaster or lie in wait to betray them. I agree that, as of right now, there's not much reason to "trust a deranged faggot," but it also appears that, because of his inveterate narcissism, he is only growing to be more defiant and entrenched into his personal "free speech" crusade against totalitarian progressives. His little Twitter-based cause celebre serves to demonstrate to many audiences who wouldn't otherwise care that after progressives successfully repress the speech of "evil racists," they're then going to go down the list and repress the speech of anyone with whom they disagree under the exact same guidelines.

    Unfortunately, even if you don't like or don't want the faggot, he's been pushed onto the same side of the struggle in which we are now engaged. It's no longer about preserving the vitality of our "patriarchal," traditional, Christian Western civilization. That has sadly been completely overthrown in Western Europe by the dictates of the EU and in the U.S. by the Obama administration and the new Leftist oriented "Kennedy court." The struggle is now about mitigating the damage, i.e., preserving the freedoms and liberties necessary to prevent the SJW State from fully subjugating and destroying the traditional society that still exists.

    I don't think we're going to be able to resurrect the society where homosexuals will remain closeted from the deterrence effect promoted by the hegemony of tradition-oriented communities and their willingness to exclude and discriminate. Now the homos are out in the open, are praised as virtuous heroes by all of the organs of society, can adopt children, and can marry in all states of the Union, while those once dominant religious communities are demoralized and in the descendant.

    But that doesn't mean the battle is completely over. It means that those conservative forces have to build a stronger and rejuvenated movement that can supplant and demonize the totalitarian Leftist culture destroyers for the warped Trotyskyites that they really are. It might mean working with libertarians of questionable morals, whether they are queer or atheist or whatever, if they are willing to fight for that same cause. The degenerate hedonist nihilist libertarian-type may be striving for the unbridled freedom and liberty granted to all law-abiding citizens to be left alone so long as they do not injure the rights of others in doing so. The social conservative may truly be striving for the restoration of order and paramount traditional values instead of that unlicensed liberty. But at our current stage in the game, it doesn't matter - for either of these parties to succeed in their respective and potentially divergent agendas, they first need to supplant the anti-white, anti-Western, anti-normal & conservative totalitarian Left, and to do this they probably need to work together for the time being, at least while their predominant interests converge.

    Because, as of right now, the 'moderate' conservative who fights for the status quo is knowingly or unknowingly fighting to maintain the supremacy of this totalitarian Left in both warping and shaping our mainstream cultural values. In that respect, I am far more willing to call the faggot Milo who actually tells the truth about the world a "friend," despite his carnal faggotry and other issues, over some National Review kahnservative or neo-con like the Jeb Bushes or the Jonah Goldbergs who are actually fighting to facilitate the complete surrender of traditionalists to this Obama-crazy cultural imperialism.

    On the other hand, if people want to be pure far-right purists who sit on a reactionary island denouncing all parties while waiting in the wind for some End Times apocalypse or structural macro-economic collapse that may either never arrive or only arrive after things have progressed to such a point where there's nothing left remotely intact to preserve, that's their right - but in effect it's a sort of "drop out" Ride the Tiger strategy of personal detachment and surrender that can only result in further catastrophic loss.

    He's a troll and a faggot with an infantile gimmick, so what. He ends up serving a far more constructive purpose from a pure consequentialist perspective than an ideologically pure white nationalist who ends up not only fully discrediting himself but concomitantly providing vicarious discredit to his cause by getting locked up for child pornography, or gambling, or some other crazy illegal activity. I realize this sort of analysis paints a rather gloomy and pessimistic picture of our current affairs, but that's the reality as I see it - I'm personally at the point to resigning myself to the fact that at least when it comes to supporting the few advocates and representatives of my own personal ideological objectives in the world that remain, beggars can't be choosers. We are literally left with fully ostracized paleo-conservative ideologues that have been so publicly blacklisted that they effectively cannot reach any mass audience and ... that warped faggot Milo. At the same time, there's also no technical reason for why we can't have them both. Who am I to judge anyone's personal life, anyway, as I am essentially a misanthropic nihilist closet fascist heretic who doesn't lead a Church-oriented family life to begin with. Whether I want to be or not I'm essentially in that same boat of freaks as the other anti-State libertarians anyway. One can support the faggot in his public advocacy without accepting and integrating him or any other homosexuals into his personal life. There really is a distinction and I feel that one can properly separate the two without any feeling of cognitive dissonance and without somehow inheriting any sort of vicarious "moral taint" on his own person by offering that very limited and relatively inconsequential form of personal support.

    All that being said, there is only one implied sort of precedent that I feel could come with the Milo example. Milo gets to air a lot of controversial viewpoints on certain platforms, both in the mainstream media and just recently in mainstream academia, and although I agree with absolutely everything he contends I don't like the fact that it seems as if he is only granted these platforms because he's a faggot. In other words, the heterosexual Christian guy, no matter how credentialed and well-educated and articulate, like a Jared Taylor for instance, would never be afforded the same courtesy because the Left would reflexively label him as a "patriarchal sexist racist homophobe bigot" who doesn't deserve any say. To the extent that Milo calls attention to this fact and acknowledges that the only reason he can access these platforms to advance these opinions is because he is an open homosexual, I support him. But because Milo is of course a self-centered attention-seeking self-promoter, it's hard to find evidence of him doing anything tangible to grant these same people access to those platforms. He really needs to do more of that if he wants to appear genuine on principle, and so long as he fails to deliver it will be easy for him to be dismissed as a self-promoting troll and fame-hog who cannot accomplish anything real. And to the extent that he inadvertently solidifies the practice of cultural Marxists to bar conservative and libertarian advocates' access to the public unless they carry their own personal victim-identity bona fides, he may end up doing more harm than good. We have to wait and see, but the dude did launch his own private privilege scholarship for white males, so at least to some minor degree we can say that he is putting his money where his mouth is. There also still remains the possibility that some of these young Millennial "Nero" followers, after they've smoked all their weed and completed their going nowhere college internships, will use the Milo and alt-right content as a stepping stone to the harder stuff and access that content supporting those realities that the progressives never want the impressionable minds of the young to encounter on any direct and unfiltered terms.

    Edit: Sorry for another long-winded TL:DR post. As you may have been able to infer I'm pulling another possible series of all-nighters to catch up on neglected work with the use of certain "performance-enhancing" stimulants that can give users a tendency to ramble. I did try to be mindful of that and limit the length of my post but then when I quickly scrolled through afterward I saw that I still managed to fuck up on that. My bad! But for anyone who is interested I will be delivering a Breck Meth Sermon to the 2.5 listeners of my weekly podcast at midnight if you would like to tune in.... (not)
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    Libertarian fag. Literal shit-stirrer. Double literally inserting himself where he does not belong.
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