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    Leaked report: Nearly half of US drone strikes in Pakistan not against al-Qaeda

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    A trove of leaked classified reports has confirmed what many had suspected – US drone kills in Pakistan are not the precision strikes against top-level al-Qaeda terrorists they are portrayed as by the Obama administration. Instead, many of the attacks are aimed at suspected low-level tribal militants, who may pose no direct danger to the United States – and for many there appears to be little evidence to justify the assassinations. Top secret documents obtained by McClatchy newspapers in the US show the locations, identities and numbers of those attacked and killed in Pakistan in 2006-8 and 2010-11, as well as explanations for why the targets were picked. The statistics illustrate the breadth of the US ‘drone doctrine’ – which has never been defined by consecutive US administrations. Between 1,990 and 3,308 people are reported to have been killed in the drone strikes in Pakistan since 2004, the vast majority of them during the Obama terms. In the 12-month period up to 2011, 43 out of 95 drone strikes in the reports (which give an account of the vast majority of US operations in the country) were not aimed at al-Qaeda at all. And 265 out of 482 people killed in those assassinations, were defined internally as “extremists”. Indeed, only six of the men killed – less than two percent – were senior al-Qaeda leaders. Some of the groups include the Haqqani network and the Taliban Movement of Pakistan, both militant organizations, but ones the US did not designate as terrorists until 2012 and 2010 respectively. Neither one has ever conducted an attack on US soil. It also confirms that attacks during the George W. Bush era, were conducted on targets picked by ISI, Pakistan’s security agency, which has no obligations to comply with US legal criteria. Furthermore, in some cases it is difficult to confirm that the targets were militants at all. In the strikes above, the internal reports showed that only one civilian had been killed. But the modus operandi revealed behind the strikes, shows that some of the attacks seem to have been based on the certain people or visitors being present as certain locations, or merely associating with those the US believes were terrorists. This chimes with the accusation that the US is carrying out a policy of “signature strikes” – attacks based on behavior, or “signature” that would be expected of a terrorist, rather than any specific illegal activity. These “signatures” apparently include such suspicious behavior as taking part in a funeral procession or first responding to an initial drone strike. Last year, the United Nation’s special rapporteur on human rights and counter-terrorism, Ben Emmerson, said it’s believed that, “since President Obama took office, at least 50 civilians were killed in follow-up strikes when they had gone to help victims and more than 20 civilians have also been attacked in deliberate strikes on funerals and mourners.” The US has previously refused to admit that it operates such a policy.
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    Roadside bombs: 'The deadliest weapon' in Afghan war

    The roadside bomb killed thousands in Afghanistan last year, stifled the economy and created a climate of fear - yet its capacity to wreak destruction and havoc only seems to be increasing. The exact toll is difficult to calculate but the interior ministry says the majority of 1,800 Afghan national police killed last year, died as a result of roadside bombs. In addition, about 900 Afghan National Army soldiers were killed by roadside bombs - averaging three soldiers a day, according to General Zahir Azimi, spokesman for the defence ministry. Over the last two years, the insurgents' focus on roadside bombs - also known as improvised explosive devices (IEDs) - has gained momentum.They no longer want to take on Afghan and Nato forces face-to-face, says Haji Abdul Mutalib, district governor of Marjah in Helmand province. Instead, they are packing TNT and plastic explosives - as well as metal and ball bearings - into their bombs to make them more powerful and more destructive, he says. Due to increased investment by al-Qaeda, a growing number of Afghan insurgents now have the expertise to make such bombs. But they are also outsourcing the job of bomb-making and planting the devices to young jobless men, according to intelligence sources in the south. And every target has a price - whether a police officer or a district governor.

    Notice how they don't mention the amount maimed.
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    I recieved an e-mail yesterday funnily enough asking me to participate in a ten mile tab back in the UK ( in the parachute regiment a battle march was called a TAB....tactical advance to battle) for wait for it.........................................."charity".

    Ex members of the regiment are being encouraged to get sponsors and participate in money raising activities to help maimed ex members of the regiment who are hobbling or being wheeled about the UK.
    2 para got hit very hard from what ive been told and suffered more casualties than any other UK unit.

    So now the fun and games are over the penny pinching UK govt is forgetting about the maimed and mangled as usual and leaving it up to ex-forces organisations to fund trips and wheelchairs for their old comrades in arms.

    I imagine that the next time imk back in London i can see limbless and blind ex-servicemen selling boot laces and matches outside Victoria station in the freezing cold.

    Of course i wont be taking part in any of these money making shenanigans...........send the bill to the big corporations who benefited from the war$ i say.
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    "...many of the attacks are aimed at suspected low-level tribal militants...attacks based on behavior, or “signature” that would be expected of a terrorist, rather than any specific illegal activity."

    C'mon, give 'em a break. After all, "they" have to practice somewhere before this stuff is employed against American civilians.
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    Afghan Insider Attack Kills Three Americans

    Nato says a man wearing an Afghan army uniform turned his gun on his trainers in the latest green-on-blue attack in the country.

    Three Americans - two soldiers and one civilian - have been killed in an insider attack in eastern Afghanistan, officials said. Nato said in a statement that a man in an Afghan army uniform had turned his weapon on the international trainers. The shooting in Paktika province is the latest in a string of attacks in which infiltrators or disgruntled Afghan police or soldiers have killed international troops working with them. The killings threaten to shake the confidence and trust of the two sides as withdrawal of most international troops approaches in 2014.
    Taliban insurgents claim most insider attacks, but the international coalition has said some of them are sparked by personal disputes. In this case, an argument between the Afghan soldier and his trainers appeared to have led to the shooting, according to a statement from the provincial governor's office. The angry Afghan soldier opened fire during the argument in an Afghan National Army base, killing the three trainers and wounding three others, according to the governor's statement.

    The foreigners returned fire and killed the Afghan soldier, who had no known connection to the insurgency.
    Meanwhile, in the western province of Farah, an Italian soldier was killed and three others wounded when an attacker lobbed explosives into their armoured vehicle, Italy's government said. The Defence Ministry said the attack came as the troops were returning to their base from training Afghan security forces. The Taliban has taken responsibility for the attack, with spokesman Qari Yousef Ahmadi claiming that the attacker was an 11-year-old boy. But Farah province provincial government spokesman Abdul Rahman Zhawandai said an adult male was seen throwing a grenade, then escaping by blending into the crowd at a nearby vegetable market.
    Taliban insurgents have launched intense attacks across the country as Afghan forces take over most security responsibility ahead of foreign withdrawal. Saturday's deaths brought to 16 the number of international troops killed in Afghanistan this month. On Thursday, seven Georgian soldiers died in a truck bombing at their base in the south.

    It should be interesting to see what Afghanistan looks like between 2014-2015 when the country's collaborator army is mostly in control.
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    1 The Long War Journal: Afghan soldier kills 3 ISAF special forces troops in Paktia

    Written by Lisa Lundquist on September 21, 2013 1:51 PM to 1 The Long War Journal

    In the first green-on-blue attack since July 9, an individual wearing an Afghan National Security Forces uniform shot and killed three special forces troops from the International Security Assistance Force and wounded another today in Gardez, the capital of Afghanistan's eastern Paktia province.


    The ISAF statement statement announcing the incident did not identify the nationalities of those killed and wounded. Most foreign troops in Paktia, which borders Pakistan and has been a hotbed of insurgent activity, are believed to be Americans.

    An Afghan Defense Ministry spokesman confirmed the attack, and said the attacker was killed by Afghan soldiers immediately following the attack, Reuters reported. According to Dawn news, however, the attacker was killed by Americans after the attack.

    A security official in Gardez said the attack took place inside an Afghan base in Gardez, the Associated Press reported.

    An account in the New York Times cited an unnamed Afghan security official who stated that the attack took place inside Forward Operation Base Lightning near Gardez. The official said that an ANA soldier shot and killed three US special operations troops who had been training Afghan soldiers.

    As the Coalition drawdown continues, the US military is relying on special forces to provide mentoring to the Afghan security forces, and these special forces troops are increasingly more exposed to insider attacks.

    Today's attack in Paktia is the third green-on-blue attack in the province since Jan. 1, 2008, when The Long War Journal began tracking the insider attacks [see LWJ special report, Green-on-blue attacks in Afghanistan: the data, for more information]. The previous two attacks both involved US casualties, and took place on Aug. 7, 2012 at a military base in the Shwak district; and on Sept. 29, 2008 at a police station.

    According to LWJ statistics, today's green-on-blue attack is the ninth so far this year. Since Jan. 1, 2008, there have been a total of 81 attacks, resulting in the deaths of 137 Coalition personnel and the wounding of 156 more. Casualties from insider attacks so far this year amount to nearly 9% of total Coalition casualties, down from a high of 15% last year.

    The downturn is likely due to the introduction of security measures in 2012 such as the use of "guardian angel" soldiers to overwatch US troops, and to reduced partnering between Afghan and Coalition forces as the drawdown continues. From a peak of level of about 101,000 soldiers in 2011, the US troop presence in Afghanistan had been reduced to 63,000 by July, and that number is expected to drop to 34,000 by February 2014. On June 18, overall security responsibility for Afghanistan was officially transferred to Afghan forces.
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    2 Romanian Soldiers Killed in Afghanistan

    BUCHAREST, Romania September 23, 2013 (AP)

    The defense ministry says two Romanian soldiers have died after they stepped on an improvised explosive device during a patrol in eastern Afghanistan.

    The ministry said in a statement Monday the two were transported by helicopter to a military hospital at Bagram where they died of their injuries late Sunday.

    The soldiers were identified as Vasile Popa, 28, on his second mission to Afghanistan, and Adrian Postelnicu, 34, who was on his first mission.

    Defense Minister Mircea Dusa said in televised comments that other soldiers were killed in the explosion but provided no further details.

    Romania has 1,029 troops serving in the NATO mission in Afghanistan. Twenty-two have been killed.
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    Wouldn't that mean they have 1,007 troops serving in Afghanistan?
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    they have 1,029 currently serving there, they had about 1800 at their peak.
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    11/04/2013 @ 9:46AM |934 views

    Report: A Million Veterans Injured In Iraq, Afghanistan Wars

    The International Business Times reported Friday that the Department of Veterans Affairs had stopped releasing the number of non-fatal casualties of the Afghanistan and Iraq wars, thus concealing what the paper called a “grim milestone” of 1 million injuries.

    All that can be said with any certainty is that as of last December more than 900,000 service men and women had been treated at Department of Veterans Affairs hospitals and clinics since returning from war zones in Iraq and Afghanistan, and that the monthly rate of new patients to these facilities as of the end of 2012 was around 10,000. Beyond that, the picture gets murky. In March, VA abruptly stopped releasing statistics on non-fatal war casualties to the public.

    However, experts say that there is no reason to suspect the monthly rate of new patients has changed…

    VA stopped preparing and releasing these reports on health care use and disability claims involving the 2.6 million U.S. service members who have been deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan without warning, claiming unspecified “security” reasons.

    After the story was published, the International Business Times reported that VA announced it would release updated figures in November.

    Traumatic brain injury and post-traumatic stress disorder, according to my own reporting, account many non-fatal casualties treated by VA. Nearly 270,000 brain injuries have been diagnosed by the Defense Department since 2001, most of them were likely sustained in Iraq or Afghanistan. It’s estimated that 1 in 5 veterans of those conflicts have PTSD, a number that reached 300,000 several years ago and is probably much higher now.

    The 1 million mark, though bleak, does not necessarily reflect a drastic increase in the number of catastrophic injuries. Earlier this year, I reported that of the more than 50,000 service members wounded in Iraq and Afghanistan who are considered polytrauma patients, 1,600 have moderate to severe brain injuries, 1,400 are amputees, and 900 were severely burned. Since then, about 200 service members have lost limbs in a combat zone.

    As the International Business Times points out, releasing the number of wartime injuries is not only essential to government transparency, but also to determining funding levels and influencing decisions about treatment and research.

    Read the full story here.
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    NATO-led soldier dead in IED strike

    By Pajhwok Report Nov 17, 2013 - 13:38

    KABUL (PAN): An International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) soldier was killed in a roadside bombing in southern Afghanistan on Sunday, the alliance said.

    The soldier’s death was announced in a brief statement from the NATO-led force that neither gave the victim’s nationality nor the exact location of the improvised explosive device attack.

    Sunday’s death raises the number of coalition troops killed in Afghanistan so far this year to 148, according to the figures given by ISAF.

    A total of 402 ISAF troops were killed in Afghanistan in 2012 -- down from 566 fatalities in 2011. Most of the fallen troops were Americans killed in the Taliban’s southern heartland, which is plagued by IED strikes.
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    Civilian mechanic from Belleville killed in rocket attack in Afghanistan


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    December 05, 2013 6:00 am • FROM STAFF REPORTS

    A civilian aircraft mechanic from Belleville has died in a mortar attack while working in Afghanistan, according to his brother and an obituary from a local funeral home.

    Albert H. Haas, 64, was killed by a rocket blast about midnight Nov. 29 while working at Bagram Air Force Base, said his brother Ken Haas, 59, of Belleville. Albert Haas had been working for AAR Airlift Group Inc. The rocket exploded in the barracks where Albert Haas was sleeping, killing him and a female coworker in another room, Ken Haas said. Several others were wounded in the explosion.

    Chris Mason, a spokesman for AAR Lift's parent company, would not comment on the incident "out of respect to the families involved." No one from the Department of Defense could be reached Thursday.

    Albert Haas was born in St. Louis and was the second oldest of five sons. He attended Althoff Catholic High School in Belleville and served in the Army in Vietnam, where he met his wife of 41 years, Bay Thi. They returned to live in Belleville and had a son and two daughters.

    He worked as a military contractor specializing in helicopter maintenance and served as an Army Reservist. He was called back to duty in Bosnia and retired from the military with honors after 30 years of service. He worked as a civilian for 30 years for commercial airlines.

    Ken Haas said his brother had worked for AAR Lift for three years, loved his job and was familiar with the dangers of working in Afghanistan, including routine rocket blasts in the region.

    "He lived life to the fullest and enjoyed every moment," his brother said. "He never worried about the end (of life). He said he knew the end could come at any minute."

    Ken Haas said he is frustrated with AAR Airlift Group for what he said is poor communication with relatives and the public about what happened.

    "All they're saying is, 'it's under investigation,'" Ken Haas said. "There's nothing on the news about this attack. When civilians get killed in a war zone like this, usually you get news about it. This time, nothing."

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    I assume most here have watched that Zero dark 30 movie on Killing of Osama.
    But what did you think of the movie? If they resemble the RL characters who actually hunted down bin laden including those who actually killed him, they looked pretty lame to me. If not down right embarrassing in some of the dialog through the movie.
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    i've never seen it, i just chalked it up as zogpropaganda and never bothered.
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    Explosion kill NATO soldier in southern Afghanistan

    By Ghanizada - Wed Dec 11, 7:44 pm

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    A NATO service member was killed following an improvised explosive device (IED) explosion in southern Afghanistan on Wednesday.

    NATO-led International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) following a statement said, “An International Security Assistance Force service member died following an improvised explosive device attack in southern Afghanistan today.”

    The statement did not disclose further information regarding the exact location of the incident and nationality of the deceased soldier.

    International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) generally do not disclose identities of the NATO soldiers killed in Afghanistan, saying, “It is ISAF policy to defer casualty identification procedures to the relevant national authorities.”

    At least 148 NATO service members including 118 US troops, 8 British troops and 22 soldiers from the other NATO member countries have been killed in Afghanistan since the beginning of 2013.

    NATO troops casualties have considerably decreased as the Afghan national security forces have taken combat lead from the coalition security forces(edit: and have greatly increased for afghan forces who are dropping like flies).

    At least 402 NATO service members including 310 American troops, 44 British troops and 48 soldiers from the other NATO member countries were killed in 2012, according to icasualties.org, which tracks NATO troops casualties in Afghanistan.
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    Six U.S. soldiers killed in chopper crash in southern Afghanistan

    KABUL Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:24am EST

    (Reuters) - Six U.S. soldiers were killed in a helicopter crash in southern Afghanistan on Tuesday, NATO said, the largest death toll in a single incident to hit the international force in months.

    "The cause of the crash is under investigation; however, initial reporting indicates there was no enemy activity in the area at the time," a NATO statement said.

    U.S. defense officials said the soldiers killed in the crash, which took place in Afghanistan's southern Zabul province, were American. One person survived the crash but suffered injuries.
    Aircraft crashes are not uncommon in mountainous Afghanistan.

    The worst such incident was in August 2011 when the Taliban shot down a transport helicopter, killing all 38 people on board including 25 U.S. special operations soldiers.

    The Pentagon said that about 67,000 NATO-led troops remain in Afghanistan, including about 43,000 from the United States.
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    Three NATO personnel killed in Kabul suicide car bomb: NATO

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    Kabul (AFP) - A Taliban suicide attacker detonated an explosives-packed car next to a NATO military convoy in Kabul on Friday, killing three NATO personnel and injuring six civilian passers-by, officials said.

    The blast in the Afghan capital left the twisted remains of the attacker's car spread across the scene along with several other badly-damaged vehicles, including a NATO sports utility vehicle, witnesses said.

    "Three International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) service members died following a suicide vehicle-borne improvised explosive device attack in Kabul, Afghanistan today," a statement from the NATO mission said.

    ISAF did not release the nationality of the dead, in line with coalition policy to leave identification to national authorities.

    The attack occurred on a main road that passes near to a series of government compounds and ISAF military facilities in Kabul on the way to the eastern city of Jalalabad.

    "A car packed with explosives was detonated by a suicide bomber... as a result six of our civilian countrymen were injured," the ministry of interior said in a statement.

    An AFP reporter said that ambulances, firefighters and armoured vehicles from the US-led ISAF mission in Afghanistan rushed to the blast site, which was quickly cordoned off by police.

    "I was in my bakery shop when I heard a bang that shattered all the windows," Nehmatullah, who uses only one name, told AFP.

    "I saw at least two bodies lying on the street and covered in blood, then came two vehicles of foreign forces and the soldiers pulled out two bodies of foreigners from a damaged black SUV."

    ISAF and Afghan security forces removed damaged vehicles using trucks and transporters.
    Among the injured being treated in a nearby hospital was a middle-aged Afghan man with wounds to his head and hands.

    ISAF troops travel through Kabul in fast-moving and heavily protected convoys, but they have regularly been targeted by Taliban militants fighting a 12-year insurgency against the US-backed government.

    "A martyrdom suicide attack took place in the 9th district of Kabul on a guesthouse of invading forces... a convoy of foreign forces was passing," Taliban spokesman Zabihullah Mijahid said in a statement.

    "In the attack, 12 Americans soldiers were killed and a number of them were wounded, and a number of their vehicles were also damaged."

    The Taliban routinely exaggerate death tolls after attacks.

    In May, 15 people, including two US soldiers and four ISAF contractors, were killed in a similar car bomb that targeted a convoy in Kabul.

    Friday's suicide bombing came after the insurgents fired two rockets into the US embassy compound in central Kabul early on Christmas Day. No one was injured.

    The militants have vowed to step up pressure on foreign forces and Afghan authorities before next year's presidential election in April and the withdrawal of US-led NATO combat troops.

    Kabul has seen a drop in attacks in recent months after a series of high-profile strikes earlier in the year, with the intelligence agencies claiming to have foiled several plots involving truck bombs and suicide blasts.

    The Supreme Court, the airport, foreign compounds and the presidential palace were all targeted in major attacks during 2013.

    NATO forces are withdrawing from Afghanistan after more than a decade of fighting the Taliban, but negotiations have stalled on a security accord that would allow some US and NATO troops to stay after 2014.
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    Meanwhiles, Mullah Omar waits- & watches wit' his 1 good eye.
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    Iraq suffers highest death toll in years

    Violence, which surged after deadly crackdown on protests, claimed more than 8,000 lives, mostly civilians, in 2013.

    The United Nations mission to Iraq says violence claimed the lives of 7,818 civilians in 2013, the highest annual death toll in years. The UN figures issued Wednesday gave a total of 759 people killed in December alone, including 661 civilians and 98 members of the security forces. The UN's monthly figures for both civilians and security forces over the year totaled 8,868. The ongoing deterioration in security was underlined Thursday, when two bombs exploded in different parts of the country. The first occurred in Balad Ruz, about 50km southeast to the city of Baquba, when a car bomb killed at least a dozen people and wounded about 25 people. The second happened when a minibus blew up in the predominantly Shia neighbourhood of Shaab in northern Baghdad,
    Thursday's blasts came as security forces and tribesmen continue to fight in Anbar province, which is west of the capital Baghdad. Violence in Iraq surged in April after the Shia-led government staged a deadly crackdown on a Sunni protest camp. Iraq's al-Qaeda branch has capitalized on the soaring sectarian tensions and on the civil war in neighboring Syria to rebuild itself. The group has targeted civilians, particularly in Shia areas of Baghdad, with waves of coordinated car bombings and other deadly attacks. The violence prompted Shia armed groups to retaliate with similar attacks in predominantly Sunni areas.

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