Handle's theory of the drug war as honeypot for thugs

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    Handle's theory of the drug war as honeypot for thugs

    From Handle's Haus, an interesting theory of the war on drugs:

    But there is a much deeper and more sinister aspect to the drug issue that is both very complex and very dangerous to discuss openly. It is indeed a dire problem on many levels.

    The problem is that while ‘poverty’ does not cause crime, idle hands are the devil’s workshop, and a heavy-concentration of young men who are either not willing or able (or both) to hold down a job and get busy raising a family is a well-established recipe for disaster that was known to the ancients since time immemorial. This problem exists in our pockets of crime, no one has any good and politically-palpable idea of what to do about it, and the accelerating three legged stool of immigration, automation, and globalization is making it increasingly worse.

    Without employing some drastic measures that are incompatible with the current norms of our society – that we aren’t even allowed to talk about without severe social sanction because they are so taboo – this situation practically guarantees the generation of all sorts of criminal activity, for kicks and for cash.

    If you are a police chief, prosecutor, or politician, then you want to prevent crime, especially violent crime, and especially violent crimes like burglaries that will spill over into your wealthier, safer neighborhoods whose inhabitants can get you fired very quickly, but who also make excellent targets for theft, muggings, or aggravated robberies because, as with banks, that’s where the money is.

    Or is it? Because burglary is risky, and burglars don’t get rich. But what if there were some alternative draw, some other – necessarily criminal – way of making vast sums of money – the stuff of a young thug’s dreams – and that particular way was demonstrably irrepressible no matter what you did, so it might as well be made useful.

    What if, furthermore, it was glorified and celebrated endlessly by your young thugs' subculture? And what if the violence that emerged out of that traffic – of a thing the sale, possession, and consumption of which arguably needs to be prohibited anyway – was almost entirely geographically contained in areas with zero political clout and mostly between the thugs themselves?

    Why, it would act as an ideal honeypot! Your thugs will all converge on conducting that particular species of crime, and you can easily arrest, prosecute, and imprison the worst of them and then incapacitate them for long-durations so that they can’t get up to any other (more politically destabilizing) kinds of criminal activity during their youthful years, which, again, you believe they are certain to do and which, really, can’t be prevented.

    And this is how the drug war works. There are very, very few people who actually, consciously think like this, putting all the pieces together into one extremely tragic but coherent picture. But the glue that holds certain lasting social institutions together is often unconscious and buried beneath some protective psychological firewalls.


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    VXXC says:
    March 5, 2014 at 12:58
    Important post. Also Huge so I’m going to address just one part of “the Dire Problem” and the Drug War Honeypot theory in this comment: The Idle Hands get to mischief so Honeypot part.

    My Bottom Line is these are Policy Choices presented as immutable forces of nature which of course they are not, they are policy choices.

    “The problem is that while ‘poverty’ does not cause crime, idle hands are the devil’s workshop, and a heavy-concentration of young men who are either not willing or able (or both) to hold down a job and get busy raising a family is a well-established recipe for disaster that was known to the ancients since time immemorial. This problem exists in our pockets of crime, no one has any good and politically-palpable idea of what to do about it, and the accelerating three legged stool of immigration, automation, and globalization is making it increasingly worse.”

    *No one has a good solution: Actually Yes the Solution since the Very Ancients is Slum Clearance. You smash the metasizing issue of the Slum, much as the State performs no small number of such projects such as road building, garbage removal, draining swamps near civilization and so on. There will always be such pockets and they will always need to be cleared periodically. This is the most Humane solution as well since it forces – force being the only lever that will work – forces the afflicted out of the fever swamp of predation and pathology they are in.

    Three legged scaffold of immigration, automation, and globalization that is slowly hanging us all: automation is much over-rated, usually by either tech types or cargo-cult worshippers who don’t understand making things, coders who don’t understand simply writing code no more accomplishes tangible physical movement than white boarding projects and throwing consultants money defies the laws of physics. Automation is over-rated.

    Immigration in the modern western state since the 1960s is a hostile act against Western Civilization that undermines it at all levels, Immigration is a policy choice not a technological advance or other nearly immutable force like the weather.

    Globalization is of course in practice a scheme of Finance and their Master/Accomplices in the Elites to get rich quick through various schemes of loans&bailouts, stock manipulations, shipping of entire industries back and now forth, and above all Globalization is a Financial Scheme of Inflation and Deflation of not only monetary exchange but of the means of production themselves.

    Nor can anyone overlook that our Elites Governing policy since the 1960s is Anti-Father, Anti-Family and one can then say Anti-Civilization. Nearly all our direct criminal and other dysfunctional behavior can be laid unto the very arms of the Blessed and Sacred Single Mother. This is the longest and most deliberately insidiously destructive policy who’s many terrible effects are a Progressive Religious Taboo. The effects were most immediately pronounced amongst The Dire Problem but it’s catching up to the rest of us as well.

    For Single Turns Mother Into Nemesis.

    You’re undoubtedly correct that the War on Drugs is an Anti-Criminal measure directed at pockets of Crime. My objection is that Policy Choices that led us here are presented as immutable forces of nature or technological “progress” which they simply aren’t.

    The only actual morally neutral force acting on our societies leading to “Dire Problems” is the Blessed Sacrament of Automation.

    The other “Forces” are in fact Policy Choices and hence the Force of the State and it’s partners The Lords of Finance and the many Denizens of Public Opinion Shaping, INC from base motives of HARM and PROFIT from the HARM.

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