Comrade Putin & Deer Leader Ombongo's recent "American Exceptionalism" tiff

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    Proceedings kicked off around 10 September 2013 after Deer Leader Obongo made a televised address in the US in which he espoused the virtues of "American Exceptionalism" in order to gather political ammunition with the Sheeple fo' an attack on Syria n' sheet.

    The idea was that "should political efforts fail" (as they were designed to fail from the outset by Obongo's :jew: Entourage) a military attack against Syria would be "justified" because of "American Exceptionalism", a concept which isn't altogether different to "Manifest Destiny".

    Before continuing, let's take a quick detour to look at the origins of "American Exceptionalism", they are somewhat surprising but once understood it makes perfect sense why a Marxist such as Deer Leader Obongo is clinging to the term.


    From the often unreliable & flawed Wikipedia:

    "American exceptionalism is the theory that the United States is "qualitatively different" from other states.[2]

    In this view, U.S. exceptionalism stems from its emergence from a revolution, becoming what political scientist Seymour Martin Lipset called "the first new nation"[2] and developing a uniquely American ideology, "Americanism", based on liberty, egalitarianism, individualism, republicanism, populism and laissez-faire.[3] This ideology itself is often referred to as "American exceptionalism."[3]

    Although the term does not necessarily imply superiority, many neoconservative and American conservative writers have promoted its use in that sense.[3][4] To them, the United States is like the biblical shining "City upon a Hill", and exempt from historical forces that have affected other countries.[5]

    The theory of exceptionalism can be traced to Alexis de Tocqueville, the first writer to describe the United States as "exceptional" in 1831 and 1840.[6]

    The term "American exceptionalism" has been in use since at least the 1920s and saw more common use after Soviet leader Joseph Stalin chastised members of the Jay Lovestone-led faction of the American Communist Party for their heretical belief that America was independent of the Marxist laws of history "thanks to its natural resources, industrial capacity, and absence of rigid class distinctions". American Communists started using the English term "American exceptionalism" in factional fights. It then moved into general use among intellectuals."


    So basically, the term originated with de Tocqueville after which it was embraced by US Commies and self-styled intellectuals and armchair socialists. This also explains why Deer Leader Obongo is so keen to invoke its usage.

    [Note:
    Perhaps the original concept of "American Exceptionalism" [defined as being based on liberty, egalitarianism, individualism, republicanism, populism and laissez-faire] was more valid during de Tocqueville's time but social, economical & political events have since caught up with the US and today it certainly isn't the case any longer.]


    Comrade Putin took exception with Deer Leader Obongo's "American Exceptionalism" rhetoric on Syria and responded that it was dangerous to see one's people (or one's country) as "Exceptional", no matter what the circumstances. It seems sensible because after all, the sky's the limit once one starts declaring one's self as "more equal" or "superior" to the rest. Even more so when the claims of superiority are hollow.

    Deer Leader Obongo decided not to let an opportunity to limp-wrist Comrade Putin go to waste and declared at the UN General assembly on 24 Sept 2013:

    "Some may disagree (Putin), but I believe that America is exceptional," Obama told the gathering of world leaders. "In part because we have shown a willingness, through the sacrifice of blood and treasure, to stand up not only for our own narrow self-interest, but for the interests of all." ~ Prez Obongo


    Upon which even Comrade Lukashenko from Belarus couldn't resist throwing his 5c worth into the mix and said that he was surprised that Obama would promote such rhetoric, given he comes from a country "where black people were slaves not all that long ago." :lol:
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    I mostly agree with RP, except that imo he's a bit idealistic with regards to Mutually Assured Respect. It's a nice Libertarian ideal (and a reflection of RP's personal philosophy) but in order for it to be effective everybody will need to adhere to it. It assumes that all players will agree to abide by a gentleman's agreement. Things don't work this way in the real world.

    I personally feel that Mutually Assured Respect is not possible without Mutually Assured Destruction. MAD may be unpalatable but it is nevertheless necessary. It promotes and encourages honesty from all sides because the alternative would see all of them lose out.

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