An independent Kurdistan?

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  1. Bluto Drunken lout

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    Or a total cluster-fuck?

    Patrick J. Buchanan-
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    pat just wants the kurds to lay down their weapons and bendover for assad and the ayatollahs and thats y he is opposed to the creation of a kurdish state. im no fan of the kurds but this article is a bunch of malarkey.
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    Fitz, Buchanan ain't sayin da Kurds don't deserve deir own ethno-state but if da Kurds decide to go fully independent, expects fuckin' war & probable Kurdish massive defeat. Pat is rightly concerned about da U.S. gettin' further entangled wit' da Mid East, not dat da Kurds should bend o'er & take it up da collective ass from sodomite dictators & religious zealots.
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    The Donald needs to back the Kurds. A client state that hasn't been totally fucked over (yet) by the USA in the middle east is something the US needs. A new start for US "diplomacy" and all that BS. The Kurds will go for it they almost have no choice.
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    buchanan is an apologist for assad and is making it sound like any futur conflict will be the fault of the kurds and/or the US and not at all the fault of assad, the kremlin, or tehran. the kurds choices very soon will be lay down their arms and forever be under the heel of assad and his gang or fight for their independence. its safe to assume the vast majority of kurds will choose the latter.

    also wat is all this constant bullshit about getting further involved or 'further entangled'? Have these fucks been paying any attention at all, do they realize the syrian war has been going on for like over six years now and the US is inextricably involved? The US has over half a dozen bases in rojava(northern syria/kurdistan). Theyve had us forces and special forces embedded with kruds int his region for yrs now. Wat alternate dimension do all these shitheads live in where the great satan is not already deeply and inextricably involved in syria?

    shitheads like buchanan just want assad to retake power because he will suport any secular arab dictator in a nice suit just because they oppress and kill muslims. who in the eyes of buchanan and those like him are the greatest enemies to freedom and the values of the big gay disco.
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    Buchanan ain't a neo-kahn, Fitz.
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    no he isnt but that doesnt matter. when guys like buchanan say dont get further involved or further entangled wat they rlly mean is surrender power in the region to russia and iran. Guys like buchanan dont give a damn about surrendering power in the region to americas enemies because buchanan doesnt see them as enemies. he just sees them as people oppressing and killing muslims(and in his mind justifiably so) and thats gud enuf for him. He figures y spend precious zogshekels and zogling lives doing this when russia and iran can do it just fine, and probably be alot more brutal and efficient in their oppression and genocide.
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    So, yer all in wit' moar American intervention in Syria? Interestink.
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    the great satan is already 200% involved. Has had for yrs us forces embedded with kurds fighting against isis. They have over half a dozen bases in kurdish territory with jets and planes and stuff. Wat does buchanan want trump to do, completely stab kurds in the back and abandon them to being runover by russia and tehrans horde of shia mercs(not to mention the turks)?

    and thats wat it ultimately boils down to, any step back by the US in the middle east today is a step forward for the kremlin and the ayatollahs. Both russia and iran have ambitions to control the middle east and its up to the great satan to prevent this.
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    Ah! So Pat is correct in noatin' what a fucked up region da Middle East is & America has played a huge role in fuckin' it up. & will prob'bly be fuckin' it up further or step back & watch it get fucked up. Interestink times.
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    its like guys like buchanan pretend american empire doesnt exist or r completely oblivious to the fact that america is a global empire. Most ppl in power believe in maintaining this empire and perhaps even expanding it. All of this involves being constantly entangled in foreign conflicts especially in regions that r contested(like syria) by enemies and other empires(like russia) or those wishing to become an empire(like iran).
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    Ya really don't know what da fuck yer talkin' about-
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    u cant be a global empire and be isolationist at the same time.
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    :confused: shit-, Fitz, ya really don't gets it. Buchanan is opposed to American Empire, globalism, non-White invasion o' da West, interventions, etc.

    Syria: Their War, Not Ours- Bluto suspects yer antipathy towards Buchanan is dat he believes America should not openly or covertly be involved in removin' Assad from power.
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    no i get it its just totally illogical. america is a global empire and a multiethnic empire and this isnt going to change.
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    Yes, Bluto recognizes dese facts. So does Pat Buchanan. He jus' one o' da lonely voices writin' about what America should be. He has been largely exiled from da mainstream for speakin' Truth to Power. He deserves some props for dis- not for bein' t'rown into da "wilderness" but for not cavin'.
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    Wong bro.

    (((JewSA))) hads been suporting Kruds 4 years moastly to gain a foothold in da region and plays dem off aginst da Syrians, Iraqis, Turks & Eye-Ranians.

    Mucho moar importantly, ((((JewSA))) certainly ain't suporting no Kruds aginst ISIS. (((JewSA))) be one o' da biggest benefactors of deir many ISIS-like allies in da region.

    Who gibs a flyin' fuck about doze goatfuckers. Fumigate dem.

    Here we gettin' at da crux o' da matter - Empire Building. (((JewSA))), Kikes :jew: & Allah-Snakbars meddling where dey shouldn't be. :disagree:
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    The kurds are Israel's #ISIS proxy force replacement, that's it.

    Those 2nd or 3rd generations from swinging in the trees gorilla apes deserve nothing but lead.
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